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    "He just kept extending love..."

    Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 6:35 PM [General]

     

    "He just kept extending love...."

     

    by Chaplain John Connor

     

    These were words I heard at a conference 10 years ago, 5 years before I considered Chaplaincy.

    I was a volunteer at a Conference put on by a former prison inmate and his wife, to bring spirituality into the prison system in Texas.

     

    The guy speaking had been an inmate (for "white collar" crime), and had been very bitter and angry during his incarceration.  Weekly he would have a required appointment with a psychologist.  During these sessions,the inmate, who I'll call "Ted", would either be silent, or unleash profanity-laden anger at the therapist.  

    The therapist, as Ted said -- "he just kept extending love..."  

    Eventually Ted opened up and let his defenses fall, and his experience transformed.  He began to make good use of his therapy sessions, and to want to be useful to other inmates.  He calmed down,lightened up, and he ended up putting on a conference that attracted nationally knows speakers such as Marianne Williamson to come and speak for free.

    I thought of this recently, when I got a letter from the daughter of a patient I'll call "Jeff".  Jeff was an atheist, and seemed to sometimes delight in telling me how religion was "a bunch of BS", and that only the simple-minded could believe these "fairy tales."

    Because I am somewhat well-read, he did enjoy talking to me about literature and his political views, and so he kept me coming to see him.

    After many months, there were some periods in which Jeff would let go, and come into contact with his spiritual nature, and ask me to pray with him.  In his daughter's letter, she described this as "the only spiritual lift my father has ever known."

    I learned a wonderful lesson from Ted, and from his therapist -- who Ted introduced to the whole conference after telling his story.

    When your patient (or loved one you are caring for) is angry, or impatient, and maybe even looking to push your buttons, just keep extending love.  And if love in some moments is too much to muster, just keep extending acceptance.  Acceptance of the patient, and acceptance of yourself.

     

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    The Gold in Your Wounds

    Sunday, December 14, 2008, 4:15 PM [General]

    This is a transcribed talk, that deals with how our wounds can sometimes be the opening through which light and new learning comes to us.

    THE GOLD IN THE WOUND

    (a talk given by John Connor)

     

    My topic today is what I call "The Gold In the Wound"--how our wounds and

    tragedies can be portals to a new consciousness. And in that little title

    there is "gold" and there is "the wound." I thought I'd begin by talking a

    bit about the wounds and then move into the gold. I made a short list of

    some of the ways we get wounded and thought you might add some ideas of

    your own.

     

    Many of us have childhood hurts and "romantic" wounds. Betrayal. People

    who we thought were our friends turn out to be untrustworthy. So I'd like

    to put it out to you. Think of ways that we get wounded in our lives.

     

    AUDIENCE MEMBER: Death of a loved one.

     

    JOHN: That's a big one. Somebody earlier mentioned divorce which, of

    course, is a loss in its own way.

     

    AUDIENCE MEMBER: Betrayal.

     

    JOHN: Exactly. And feeling dismissed by others. Have you ever experienced

    that? Maybe somebody didn't insult you outright, but they were dismissive

    of something you said or an idea that you had.

     

    AUDIENCE MEMBER: Loss of a job.

     

    JOHN: Yes, absolutely. Feeling humiliated, which can be part of losing a

    job and feeling humiliated in front of others particularly. The gap

    between the first time I tried comedy and the second time I tried it was

    thirteen years. That's how bad the first time went! I went down in flames

    my first time up. I didn't feel too bad about having laid an egg in front

    of strangers as much as the fact that I had six friends there who had to

    see me twisting in the wind. And then there was also something that was

    mentioned, loss of a loved one. So I'm going to tell you about some of my

    own wounds, little pieces of my life story, and how they tie into the

    topic.

     

    It's about the time of the eighth grade when teachers start asking you,

    "What do you want to be when you grow up?" So we tend to thinkabout

    careers and that type of thing. I first thought of a couple of men thatI

    really admired, and they were both ministers, so I thought, Maybe I'llbe

    a minister when I grow up. I didn't know if I was good enough, butthat's

    what I thought I would do. And so after high school I took my first

    seminary courses. The church I was raised in is very small, and whatsome

    would classify as new-age Christian mysticism, called the Emissaries of

    Divine Light. And the approach of the seminary training, called Servers

    Training School, was that if you're a minister you are there to serve--so

    ministers were called "servers." And the training involved several months of

    classes, then some independent study living and working in one of the

    retreat centers, plus working on one of the church's organic

    farms. The retreat center I went to was one several, this one with a

    hundred and fifty people living in a communal setting with a beautiful

    feeling of a shared sense of purpose.

     

    So it was pretty great stuff, and I completed that when I was about

    twenty-two. But I didn't go out and seek a church or a place to serve as a

    minister. Because the Emissaries is such a small church, very few people

    are full time ministers who get paid for it. Most people are, you might

    say, lay ministers in the sense that they have to have a regular day-job. My

    parents did this as well. So I started focusing on my career and, being a

    young man, dating and such. But as time went on I started to feel less and

    less worthy to be a minister. I had these perfectionist ideals which I

    talked a little bit about when I spoke here in January. I had

    perfectionist ideals about what a minister should be. 

     

    In the meantime I got married in '88, and within a year or two we decided

    to have a family. But after another year or two nothing was happening in

    the normal or natural way of fertility, so we decided to look into

    infertility treatments. And so we spent about five years with that,

    starting off with hormone therapy and then moving on to in vitro

    fertilizations and then zygote inter-fallopian transfers. It was a

    continual thing with mounting expense. But finally we got pregnant in'94,

    and it was great; we were delighted and life was moving along. Aboutfive

    and a half months into the pregnancy we started to have a bit of a

    problem, and so we went to the hospital and the doctor seemed a bit grim

    but there was hope, too, that there could be some surgical interventionto

    keep everything together. Maybe if my wife Bonnie, who is right here,

    stayed in bed for three months we could hope to get the pregnancy to

    thirty-six or thirty-eight weeks and everything would be fine.

     

    But it didn't work out that way. The next day there was what is called an

    abruption of the placenta, and so the baby was going to be born. There was

    no stopping it. But a baby that little is too small to live outside her

    mom. So our daughter Sarah was born, and she died about two and a half

    hours after she was born. This was a totally unexpected event in our

    lives. We had spent so long trying to get pregnant and trying to have

    children. I was even starting to worry about what I would do aboutthings

    like Sudden Infant Death Syndrome after the baby was born, but it didn't

    occur to me that this really could happen. It brought me to my knees. It

    was the worst thing that had ever happened in our lives and, of course,

    Sarah lost her life.

     

    One of things that happened is that it threw our whole lives up for

    review: what does this mean? And what is the meaning and purpose of mylife

    now? Even though I had a sense of purpose before we got pregnant,

    afterwards it seemed like all purpose was gone. And in terms of thetitle

    of the sermon this morning, it's certainly the deepest wound I've ever

    had.

     

    And so one of the things we decided to do a couple of months after

    Sarah died was to go on a trip. I wanted to get away from my regularlife.

    I wanted to get away from my business and from my home. And yet I wanted

    to go TO something, and I wanted to ask people, "What is yourpurpose?" I

    had the idea first to go to some of my old spiritual mentors who were

    meaningful to me and seemed wise. But then I broadened the tent--Ididn't

    know who would have an answer for me, so I decided not only to ask my

    ministers, but also I wanted to ask the clerk at the Subway store andthe

    person behind the counter at the motel where we stayed. And so we did.

     

    We spent a few weeks driving around the West, from Texas up intoColorado,

    over into Arizona and New Mexico. Anybody who we seemed to have enoughof

    a connection to listen to us, we asked the question, "What is thepurpose

    of your life?" I remember one girl in particular at a Subway inLoveland,

    Colorado, probably about nineteen, said, "Well I don't know."We said,

    "Okay, that's honest." But after we walked out and were in ourcar, we

    noticed she was cleaning off the counter, deep in thought. So it was

    actually a blessing to ask her the question so that she could start

    entertaining it. While we found that most of the people didn't have an

    extraordinarily new or profound answer, I was pleasantly surprised that

    most people had something to say about the fact that their purpose wasto

    be helpful, to be a blessing to another. That related to a sense of

    purpose I had had, too.

     

    Finally we got to the headquarters of my church, where there were several

    people I wanted to ask the question of--and did. Then one fellow, CliffPenwell, said, "Well, I'd like to tell you what I think your purpose is." Iwas open to

    that, and we arranged to get together for lunch.

     

    During the meal he started to say some nice things to me about me.

    Like many of us, I'm quite adept at deflecting those things because of the

    internal monologue that tells us negative things about ourselves. We tend to

    have full faith in those! And so as he was telling me these positive things

    my mind was thinking, "I've got to bounce that one off me, because that doesn't

    really fit with the negative things that I know about myself."

     

    I was sitting there deflecting the things he was saying, when he said,

    "No, John. Listen, you are a priest."

     

    It brought everything together that I had felt as a young boy, and in that moment his words leapt over all those doubts I had. After Sarah died a lot of things got laid to waste and a lot of things got let go of. When he said that to me so directly and so "on the nose" for me, I couldn't speakfor awhile; I ended up in tears. I was so thankful that somebody who I didn't even know very well was able to see this about me and tell it to me.

     

    So I couldn't deny it anymore or pretend that I wasn't good enough. All

    these feelings about not being good enough, not feeling pure enough, not

    feeling like I've grown enough, were still present but they began to not

    matter as much. Here I am, imperfect, but there's something I can dowith

    my imperfect self. That's what I started to see.

     

    When I got back home I gave a sermon of my own thoughts - something I hadn't done since I had been about twenty. With the exception of reading some spiritual material that somebody else had written as part of the service, I hadn't offered words of my own between the time I was 20 to the time I was 35 years old. And so this offering of my own service was a symbol to me, because my fear had diminished - it was not totally gone from me but it was diminished. I was

    ready to stand up in front of a group of people and say, "Here is my

    perspective...." It was a golden part of my experience

    subsequent to what had happened in me.

     

    I don't believe that God sends calamities to us to give us life lessons; I

    don't think God thought, "Well, this guy needs to learn some life lessons so

    I'll kill his daughter. Let's see what he makes out of that."

     

    Life on earth contains some slings and arrows along with it, and sometimes we see something new subsequent to painful events, if we look at them a little bit

    differently. There can be gold in the wound. Some of that gold for me has

    to do with increased compassion. Although I think I was a fairly

    compassionate person before the death of my daughter, I remember that I

    wanted to avoid things like being around somebody who was very

    ill - perhaps even dying - because it made me uncomfortable. I wasn't trying

    to be mean, but it made me queasy and I didn't want to be around suffering.

     

    But a few months after I returned from our trip I wanted to visit a friend

    who was in the hospital. She had had a mastectomy and was really having a

    tough time. But she was a trooper - even though she was being sick

    into her little pan when I arrived at her room, she looked up and said,

    "Oh, there's no chair for you, John. Somebody get a chair forJohn."

    Gracious to the last.

    Now it used to be that I would have wanted to be in a

    hospital room the shortest period of time possible. But this changed with

    increased compassion. All I wanted to do was be there and hold her hand

    and see what I could do that might be of help to her.

     

    One of the things she asked for was more morphine. She had another friend

    there and we were both with her. I went to get the nurse for the morphine,

    and after she fell asleep I left. She was having such a tough time, and in

    six months they were going to remove her other breast. She was elderly,

    and it seemed like so much. I wondered to myself how I would handle going

    through that whole process before "the end", you might say. I found out a

    day or two later that she had passed away that night. Though I was sad to

    lose my friend, I was glad the suffering was over.

     

    Something else that was golden for me - and it was around early '95 by this

    point -- was a quote that went all around the Internet. Originally it was

    attributed to Nelson Mandela, but it's actually a quote by Marianne

    Williamson, from her book called "A Return To Love". It was a real blessing

    to me at the time, and still is. I have it framed on my wall at home. I

    want to read it to you.

     

    "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fearis that

    we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that

    frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous,

    talented and fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child

    of God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing

    enlightened about shrinking so that others won't feel insecure around you.

    We are all meant to shine as children do. We were born to manifest the

    glory of God that is within us. It's not in some of us, it's in everyone.

    And as we let our own light shine we unconsciously give other people

    permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our

    presence automatically liberates others."

     

    I was thinking about going "THROUGH the wounds": we move through our

    wounds and see what's on the other side. We have all been wounded, and I

    think that there is a blessing we can give each other if we can start to

    see each other as we truly are, in the context Marianne spoke about - even

    though that can be difficult to see about ourselves. Many of us can easily

    see the beauty and the brilliance of our friends, but it is often not so

    easy to see about ourselves. I have a theory that it takes at least four

    positive statements to permeate that Kevlar body armor that many of us

    carry around our hearts. Earlier this morning I surprised Bonnie as an

    example of that. Bonnie has this mistaken idea that she doesn't sing well,

    but she does. And so I told her four times, "No, you really do sing well."

    Of course there's no mathematical certainty that four times is enough to

    work but, again, it's these things we can say to each other that can be a

    blessing. And it's more than a one-time job. I know after I do comedy, the

    first two or three times someone comes and says, "Oh that was really

    funny," I think, Okay. Maybe. But then the fourth or fifth time someone

    tells me, I might start to believe it.

     

    And the same is true of friendship. Many times we speak of a good friend

    as someone who is willing to love us despite our faults; they'll look at

    us and see our pettiness maybe, or examples of our immaturity, and they'll

    still love us. That is a good definition. I'd like to add something to the

    definition, though. A good friend - and perhaps this kind of friend is even

    more rare - is someone who will let us shine, who will let us be great, who

    will let us step out and be our true selves. They will let something

    wonderful come out of us without feeling threatened by it, and won't try

    to take us down a notch or two. Rather, they will delight in our blooming.

     

    It's good to note that something that is not included in that quote from Marianne Williamson is the word "humility." Occasionally someone says that somebody needs a good dose of humility, and it can be a popular religious notion that we need to be humble before God, or before leaders. Well, for many of us, we've got the "humility" thing pretty much down. We've been humbled plenty in our life, maybe particularly in our childhood. 

     

    What would be helpful is to have a good dose of confidence, a good dose of blessing.

    When I speak of "confidence", many people think that they have to somehow reach down inside of themselves and pull out this assurance and fabulousness.  For many of us that is Step Two. Step One is to hear from a reasonable voice

    outside ourselves some of these true things that Marianne wrote about.

    And, of course, a little example of that would be in my comments to Bonnie

    about her singing.  So much negative self-talk goes on in our own brains

    that a reasonable outside voice can be a real blessing.

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    She said, "Yes!"...

    Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 5:47 PM [General]

    ...Actually, at our Renewal of Vows, Bonnie said "I still do," and I said "I still do" at our ceremony.  It was beautiful and we had lots of family and friends present, including a good number who were at the original wedding 20 years ago.  A fine dinner, and entertainment by a little band me and two friends formed provided the music that all rocked out to.  I hope to have some photos to post soon.

    And last Sunday, my daughter's soccer team won the state championship for Girls under 13. 

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    20th Wedding Anniversary

    Saturday, November 22, 2008, 12:29 PM [General]

    .... only five days away.  Do you think she'll still say "I do" at our renewal of vows?  Magic 8 Ball says "Yes".  Whew!  Getting ready for the big party.  This is secret info so don't tell anyone, but the song order JC and the Sunrise Band will play at the Anniversary party is: TWIST & SHOUT, LOUIE LOUIE, a blues instrumental, and then closing with Cream's SUNSHINE OF YOUR LOVE.  The first dance involves JC, who is also the groom and the drummer, dancing with his bride to 70's prom favorite COLOR MY WORLD by Chicago, played by "...and the Sunrise Band" AKA James Paine and Alex Ortiz.

    Embarrassing photos from the past -- including me in my mullet hair phase -- will be on display, too.  If my daughter gets these photos scanned, I'll upload a couple for the hilarity.

    peace,

    John 

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    GOBAMA!

    Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 10:24 PM [General]

    I was very excited and proud last night when the majority of voters elected Barack Obama.  

    I'm 48 years old, and while I've voted many times, this is the first time I got involved in

    a political campaign.  I donated money, and I was a Precinct Delegate for Obama in the Texas Primary. 

    It's morning in America... 

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    Going on vacation...

    Saturday, October 25, 2008, 1:55 PM [General]

    ... will post when I get back (unless I get net access while I'm gone.)

    Vaya Con Dios,

    John 

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    I voted early yesterday...

    Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 10:55 PM [General]

    ... have you?371d36d75e05eda735858f8e467be99c
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    Recent Sunday lesson...

    Monday, August 18, 2008, 11:03 PM [General]

    I haven't given a Sunday lesson (sermon) in a couple of years, and it was a pleasure to do this one on July 27th.

    The topic is "Christ in You: Metaphysical Bible Interpretations".  Let me know what you think, agree or disagree.

    http://www.unitynewbraunfels.org/lessons/johnconner.mp3 

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    Daddy/Daughters Road Trip

    Sunday, June 15, 2008, 10:19 AM [General]

    Over the past few years, it's become a tradition that my girls (ages 12 and 10) and I go on a road trip together.

    It started in 2004 on a great run from Austin to Colorado and over to Kansas City and back.  One of the things that made that trip so great was that, with the exception of ending up on Kansas City to pick up my wife from the Unity Institute seminary, the itinerary was wide open.  If we saw something interesting, we'd just stop and do it: a water park, a dinasuar museum, a comedy club I used to appear in back in the day, a roadside mountain to climb... it was great. 

    Modern conveniences like car-lighter powered DVD systems and hand-held video games help.  They enjoy the time in the car so much that they'll ask, "How far are we going today?" and I'll say "12 hours" and they'll go "Yes!"  

    Before the trip they'll do what they call "get situated." They make each side of the back seat their little room, with stuffed animals, a blanket, pillow, games, snacks.

    Last summer, we drove from Austin to Disneyworld and back.  We met Bonnie there.  Before having children, Bonnie and I used to like to go to Cancun for vacation, but in recent years I've wanted to find a domestic beach for vacation that would have at least CLOSE to similar water.  We found it at Pensacola beach, Florida.  Fifty yards of white sand beach between the hotel and the shore, and blue-green water (not like the Yucatan, but much better than Texas beaches).

    On the way back, I drove 17 hours in a stretch, my longest yet, to get from Orlando to Beaumont, just inside Texas. 

    This Friday after work (starting at night has also become a tradition), we begin a trip that will take us to Venice Beach near LA, so we can Ripstik (a kind of skateboard) on the cement trails through the beach, and buy 3-for-$10 t-shirts on the boardwalk there.

    Then we drive up the Pacific Coast Highway all the way up the west coast to Seattle, stopping when we need to, and also in Oregon to see friends and relatives.  

    In Seattle we will do touristy things, but are there to see Bonnie's brother and his family, and for a reunion of a few families who travelled to China with us on our Adoption journey to get Jasmine.  (Two years later we went again to adopt Lily.) The girls from these families we traveled have a special connection together, and call each other "adoption sisters."  We try to get them together every two years, which usually happens in Denver.

    I recommend trips like this to any father of daughters, to get special time with just you and them. 

     

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    Parenting & the spiritual journey

    Tuesday, April 1, 2008, 8:48 PM [General]

    Parenting and the Spiritual Journey

    By John Connor

    In researching some of the most well-known mystics and sages, I found that many are celibate, single, or leave their spouse and children.  Why is that?  And why do we give them a pass on it, which it seems that we do? If somebody founds a religion, we will apparently give them a pass on being what today would be called a dead-beat Dad.  Buddha and Confucius both had wives and children, and left them to go on their spiritual journey.  It could be argued that it was all to the good because philosophies and religions were developed, people became adherents, and their lives were changed.  But it ignores the fact that the wife and children have spiritual unfoldment of their own to do, which is made all the harder when the father abandons the family. 

    Of course, it is easier to be contemplative insolitude.  It is easier to make a choice of an ascetic life when you are only making that choice for yourself:

    “It is a great challenge this path of the householder.  There are many distractions, many worldly concerns. The ascetic is bothered by none of these.  He is brought his bread and water, and given his humble mat on which to lie, and he can devote his every hour to prayer, meditation, and contemplation of the divine.  How easy to see the divine under such circumstances!  How simple a task! Ah, but give one a spouse, and children!  See the divine in the baby who needs changing at 3:00a.m.  See the divine in a bill that needs paying by the first of the month… the job that’s lost, the child’s fever, the parent’s pain.  Now we are talking saintliness.” (Walsch, P. 115) 

    The overwhelming majority of people live life in some sort of family circumstance; parents and children.  Does the spiritual journey have to be abandoned while raising children? Or delayed until the “real work” of the spiritual life can begin (or continue)?  That cannot be true --and has not been true in my experience. 

    Yet I also note that when I have had a mystical experience, or when I have felt connected to God in deep ways, it has been in solitude.  Family life can feel like an impediment to the relaxation and the quiet that seems to be part of the ground from which transformation and realization are born.  So, what is the answer? 

    In my journey, it is seeking balance to experience both: the blessings of family life, and the blessings of solitude.  Parenting children can, in fact, bring the experience of unconditional love that is heralded by many religions and mystics.  For instance, Sixteenth Century Spanish Mystic St. Teresa of Avila (Kirvan, P. 169) said, “… For the good of your soul consists not in thinking much, but in loving much.”  Sometimes I wonder if these childless mystics are even aware of the simple and deep love that a parent feels for their child?

    Swinging the pendulum the other way, I begin to crave alone time after a while of not having it.  The peace and tranquility of quiet times -- in which there are no needs of anyone else to consider -- are rejuvenating and enlightening. It is in those times that I can actually reflect on my life and have fresh realizations from my experiences.  In the excellent Ordinary People As Monks And Mystics (Sinetar, P. 40-41) the author notes that some people find this balance through dividing their time: “Married people in the study reported many innovative ways to deal with their individual needs for solitude.  In some cases couples intentionally separated during the work week and spent weekends together.”  Others create separate areas within a home in which each gets their time and space.  It is even suggested that from the help this solitude provides for a couple, a happier home is created for their children. 

    My wife and I have made use of local hotels in this regard.  Occasionally one of us, usually me, will get a local hotel room for the night.  Sometimes this is done in order to get writing done in an uninterrupted way. But it also has the aspect of quiet and solitude.  Several years ago when I used to sporadically perform stand-up comedy, I would go off for a week or two at a time on tour, during which I got some alone time.

    Just recently I mentioned to Bonnie that I wanted a room of my own in the house to sometimes meditate, pray, and read in.  A place that’s for me that won’t have toys in it, in which I can shut the door and be by myself.  I was pleasantly surprised that she was very agreeable to the idea. (She's ready for some solitude, too!)

    Ultimately, there is no more important “work” in my emotional and spiritual life than being a good father to my children and a good husband to my wife.  I know I can easily get into lofty thinking about becoming some sort of spiritual teacher, or writing popular books that are going to be helpful to “all those people out there…” 

    But what is important is what is present -- what is present right in front of us.  And I find that having times of solitude of a night or two can provide the space of openness to spiritual in-filling, after which I can engage more fully with my family. 

    As parents, these little ones entrusted into our care are worth all of our attention, and diving fully into the beautyof that we can see that there is nothing more that needs to be done.  There are other, additional things we can choose to do in addition to family life – for instance, ministry, or writing, or art.  But I like getting reminders that appear from time to time, that there is no grand “greater works” than to be present, fully present, with my family.  In this way, parenting can begin to be the spiritual journey, as opposed to derailing the spiritual journey. 

    I am not now speaking from authority entirely, but theory, because I am still not living this vision now.  I am working on it though.  A saying of Jesus helps to confront my faulty thinking about what is important, especially in this spirituality and parenting context.  Jesus said(Coogan, P.76 NT), “Let the little children come unto me, and do not hinderthem, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.”

     

     

    References

    Coogan, M.(Ed.).  (2001).  New oxford annotated bible nrsv. 3rd ed.  NewYork:  Oxford University Press.

    Kirvan, J.  (1996).  Let  nothingdisturb you: A journey to the center of the soul with Teresa of Avila. Notre Dame, IN: Ave Maria Presss.

    Sinetar, M.  (1986).  Ordinary people as monks and mystics. Mahwah, NJ:  Paulist Press.

    Walsch, N.  (1996).  Conversations with God: An uncommondialogue.  NewYork:  G.P. Putnam’s Sons. 
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