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    Tuesday, July 24, 2012, 12:56 AM [General]


    Gaslighting is a strange-sounding term which refers to the way in which abusers such as Narcissistic Mothers lie to you, by word or deed, intentionally or not intentionally, to convince you that your version of reality is not right.

    The phrase comes from the 1940's film Gaslight, in which an abusive husband deliberately dims the gaslights in the house, but when his wife comments on it he tells her she's imagining it, that the lights never dimmed at all.

    Gaslighting is one of the most insiduous, viscious, nasty and effective forms of emotional and psychological abuse.

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    It can make the victim feel as if she's going crazy. If your perceptions of reality are constantly denied, and above all, denied by your mother, the person you look up to and who you think knows everything, it is very, very head-wrecking and crazy-making.

    This gaslighting can be done deliberately, as in the example from the film above, in order to make you go crazy. Malignant Narcissists would be prone to

    doing this.

    Or the crazy-making can just be a side-effect and the gaslighting is done in order to preserve the Narcissistic Mother's vision of herself as perfect, without her actually having to do the stuff that would make her perfect.

    I wrote about my wedding and how my mother never gave me any compliment, but swears blind, shouting it, that she did. This is gaslighting.

    She didn't deliberately say to me on the day, "Pity you look so ugly," and then deny it - that would be the act of a Malignant Narcissist.

    But she was too self-absorbed and self-centred to say anything nice to me AND she was too convinced of her own wonderful motherness to even entertain the possibility that she wouldn't say anything nice to me, so she re-wrote history to make that that she did.

    It's impossible for non-narcissists to get into the mind of narcissists, so I have no idea if this is right. But my best guess is that in her mind it's a case of: "A wonderful mother would have told her daughter she looked lovely, and I am a wonderful mother, therefore I would have/must have said it, and if Danu says differently she must be mistaken".
    Gaslighting is also insiduous because so many of a Narcissistic Mother's cruelties are small ones. Any particular example of them can be dismissed as just a thoughtless word, and we're all thoughtless sometimes.

    But her cruelties add up to death by a thousand cuts, and if you're trying to reason with her (which, don't bother doing. But until you realise this ...) and you're using previous examples of the same cruelty in an attempt to show a pattern - well, it won't work because she will simply deny that the previous examples happened.

    Another form of gaslighting is the denial of your right to be upset. In this case the Narcissist might accept that the situation happened, but will invalidate you by vehemently denying that there was anything untoward about it, or any valid reason to get upset.

    You might like to check out our Narcissistic Mother-English Dictionary.

    You might aso find the film/movie Gaslight to be interesting. It clearly (and chillingly) shows exactly how gaslighting works

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    Dictionary of A Narcissistic Mother

    Tuesday, July 24, 2012, 12:53 AM [General]

    Narcissistic Mother-English Dictionary

    This is the result of a bit of fun we had on our forum. But it's all very real under the humour. It's all classic gaslighting and invalidation.



    I love you.
    1. I want to manipulate you.
    2. You're showing signs of breaking away and I want to suck you back in.
    3. I've heard people say this and it seems to get a good reaction.
    4. I command you to love me.
    Don't ever feel like you HAVE to come see me for my birthday If you don't make the 650 mile pilgrimage to celebrate me, I promise I will do something to make you pay dearly.
    Go do something constructive. Be gone, I have no interest in my own children.
    You were an "accident". You are only here because homicide would get me jail time, and I thought you'd be a better slave, so I didn't opt for adoption.
    You go have yourself a good cry! I resent your emotions, but at least I can use them to hurt you.
    I never said that!
    1. Damned if I'm going to admit it.
    2. Yes I said that but it doesn't work in the conversation right now.
    3. I know I said it but it’s so much fun to f*** with your head until you don’t know what is true and you think you really are crazy! Yeah me!!!
    It's been a long time since I talked to you and just called to see how you were doing. I am running low on my Narcissistic Supply and need another fix.
    I have no idea what you're talking about! Damned if I'm going to admit to it.
    You just aren't remembering correctly. My version of events shows me in a better light, so that's the official one.
    You never do anything for me! I know you've done a lot for me in the past, but that was then and it no longer counts. What have you done for me today?
    It's time this stops. None of my ploys have worked to pull you back so now I will treat you like a child.
    I miss you.
    1. I miss having control over you.
    2. I'm lacking my Narcissistic Supply - please provide it pronto.
    Who have you been talking to, in therapy with, what book did you read, etc, etc, etc.... I'm not getting the usual emotional response from you and you are too dim-witted to have figured out how to shut me down on your own.
    Your brother and sister-in-law took us out to dinner last night. We had such a nice time - I don't think we have ever been treated that well. You had better step up your game and show some appreciation for all I've done for you.
    I'm so proud of you.
    1. You have made mefeel good and/or *I* feel good because of you.
    2. I can take credit for that accomplishment.
    Why are you wasting your time on something so silly and that takes you away from your family? Why are you wasting your time on something so silly and that takes you away from me?
    Your father and I think ... I think ...
    So how are you?
    1. I'd better ask, but don't worry I won't really be listening. Or as soon as you say a trigger word, which reminds me of something else, I'll interrupt and be off again!
    2. I'm running out of things to boast to my friends about, so please come up with some accomplishments.
    I'm so sorry your beloved 14-year old dog died. Sigh ... I'd better at least mention it and then I can talk about myself again.
    It's so sad! It's so exciting! I love being this close to tragedies! The drama!
    I'm sorry.
    1. I will say the words but never change my behaviour.
    2. I'll say anything to shut you up, but don't worry, I don't mean it.
    I'm thinking of you. I will continue to ignore your boundaries.
    Let’s just let go of the past. Let’s pretend everything is ok and I’m not a nightmare of a mother so I can continue to torture you and get my Narcissistic Supply.
    Your sister-in-law is such a great cook! Simply amazing! I want to take away any pleasure or pride you have in your own cooking skills.
    I just want you to love me. All I really want is for you give me my Narcissistic Supply.
    What’s wrong with you today? What is your problem? I’m pissed that you are denying me my much needed Narcissistic Supply. Damn you!
    I was only trying to help! I demand the freedom to interfere in your life any time I want. That is my right!

    What happened to the nice girl I once knew?

    Why are you no longer the easily manipulated and uncomplaining-of-abuse girl I raised you to be?

    After all I’ve done for you! You’ve never appreciated me!” wah wah wah I have violated your boundaries most of your life and I resent the hell out of your standing your ground and refusing to allow me to interfere, manipulate and control you.
    Why are you treating me so badly? What have I done wrong? I have the right to interfere in your life and abuse you without any consequences.
    Because I’m the Mama! You are really just a child, after all. I’ll never acknowledge that you are now an adult.
    I want to give you this or that because I love you. It’s really because you will then be beholden to me and this gives me great leverage to milk you for Narcissistic Supply.
    I want to help you with your kids. I plan to interfere in the upbringing of your children by spoiling them, disciplining them differently to your way, and ignoring your decisions and wishes regarding them. I will not acknowledge your position and rights as the mother of these children.
    1. You were very difficult to raise.
    2. You were always my problem child.
    You resisted my attempts to violate your boundaries, abuse you and humiliate you.
    I never want to be a burden to you. I will over-run your life and suck the life force from you and your children.
    Have you lost some weight? I am so glad that I brought that sticky bun with me on this visit.
    You take me the wrong way. I will invalidate your feelings as I have done your whole life.
    You're such a good cook. You got that from me!
    You're such a good mother. You got that from me!
    You don't respect me! You won't let me abuse you!
    1. I have to walk on eggshells around you.
    2. You're over-sensitive.
    You won't take my abuse uncomplainingly.
    You won't forgive me! You won't allow me to allow me to trample all over you even though I have expressed no repentance and will continue to act exactly as I always have.
    1. You need more time to think about it.
    2. Well have a think about it and get back to me.
    I am not accepting your decision/opinion.
    I was just joking even if I did say and do that, which I didn't. I did say/do it, and I did mean it, but damned if I'm going to acknowledge that.
    You just won't admit when you're wrong. You defended yourself from my lies!
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    Friday, July 20, 2012, 11:20 AM [General]

    God says "I Have A Plan and A Purpose for You!" 

     When we receive Jesus in our hearts and become a child of God, then we have the privileges God has given to all of His children available to us. We are then pure in the sight of God, and therefore our works before Him become good works. Through following our Lord daily we are able to live the overcoming life. 

    Jeremiah 29:11

    New International Version (NIV)

    11 For I know the plans A)"> I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper B)">  you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

    That sounds like a purpose to me.  Yes, God has a purpose for me.  For some of us who have traveled off the original plan of God it may seem a little difficult in getting back on the original path that God has for us.

    Let God be your navigation system, all we have to do is say "God I Am Willing To Go Where You Lead Me."

    If your anything like me I want to know when, where, how, are why?   Buw tith God he says "Just Trust Me."

    Once we Let Go and  Let God he'll say just like our navigation system; turn right here, turn left here or your going the wrong way make a u-turn.

    After many sleepless and restless night wondering about what I was going to do and how I am going to make it I finally surrended realizing that God has a plan and a purpose for me.

    Like my pastor says "I have to trust God." 

    Seeming, after I resolved to letting God take the helm I was able to rest in God knowing that he will order my footsteps

    He (God) has a plan and a purpose for me and no one can pluck me out of his hands.

    God will see that all his plans come to his expected end. 

    I am praying for God to direct my path so that I will stay on course.

    The lesson learned is not to de-rail!  I HAVE PURPOSE!

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    I Can't Go Back! The Familiar Spirit

    Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 10:16 AM [General]

    Once we have been delivered from a thing: lesbianism, homosexuality, drugs, alcohol. ex-girlfriend, ex-boyfriend, etc.

    God says "Don't Go Back" if that person is a hinderance to your spiritual growth.


    I know it seems that once God has delivered you from something here it or they come multiplied.  Lord, help!

    We can make it.  Knowledge is Power so read this and it will tell you what your dealing with.  If these spirits have made it uncomfortable for you and they are lingering in your home or dwelling place go to the website that website has a song "The Blood of Jesus" let it continously play in your home or dwelling place and I am certain that it will clean the place out.  But realize it there is a stronghold it will require fasting and prayer.

    God says in all you seeking seek wisdom.  Knowledge is power so read this excerpt and it will tell you what your dealing with.

    This excerpt is speaking particularly about mediums, psychics but their are many other familiar spirits such as the ones mentioned above.

    If your are having a problem staying in your home for any length of time or you feel depressed or a spirit of heaviness here's a website that you should go to and just allow the song "Oh, The Blood of Jesus" to play until the spirit lifts.

    Confronting Familiar Spirits

    by Frank and Ida Mae Hammond

    "Familiar spirit" is the designation of a specific type of evil spirit. It is so classified because of its chief characteristic: namely, familiarity. It is a relationship, a familiarity, with a person or personality. For example, a woman, whom Paul encountered in Macedonia, had a familiar spirit which gave her powers of divination. (Acts 16:16-18)

    Familiar spirits are common amid the practices of spiritism and witchcraft, but their activity is by no means limited to persons and practices so obviously occult. Evil spirits are personalities. They can reason, decide, express emotions and communicate. Personalities have the capacity to relate to one another. Two human personalities can form a relationship; and, through communication and communion, that relationship can be enhanced. Likewise, a person can form and develop a close relationship with an evil spirit. When a person forms a relationship with an evil spirit (which can be done either willfully or through ignorance), he then has a familiar spirit.

    A familiar spirit is something that a person has, because it is a personality identified with a certain individual. In the same sense that one has a book, a friend or a cold, one can be personally identified with a demon spirit.

    "Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God." Lev. 19:31, KJV, (emphasis mine)

    The Hebrew word for "familiar spirit" is ob, meaning "a leathern bottle." To the ears of the ancient Hebrews, the hollow sound of a familiar spirit, speaking through a medium, sounded as though it were coming out of a skin bottle. A skin bottle is a vessel; and, a person who has a familiar spirit, serves as the vessel which contains the spirit. The spirit indwells the person. Thus, a person who has a familiar spirit is demonized.

    God's Warnings

    The seriousness of entertaining familiar spirits is plainly set forth in God's Word. Under the Old Testament law, involvement with familiar spirits was punishable by death.

    "A man or a woman who is a medium, or who has familiar spirits, shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones. Their blood shall be upon them." Lev. 20:27

    Familiar spirits are counterfeits of the Holy Spirit's work. As with anything occult, involvement with familiar spirits constitutes idolatry and creates spiritual defilement: "Regard not them that have familiar be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God" Lev. 19:31.

    Anyone who has fellowship with God, and who is led by the Holy Spirit, does not need a familiar spirit, for God provides him with all that he needs. The sin of adultery is committed when a man or woman goes outside of his or her marriage relationship to gratify sexual appetites. Likewise, a child of God commits spiritual adultery when he goes outside his relationship with God to gain supernatural knowledge, wisdom, guidance or power.

    King Saul sought out a woman who had a familiar spirit, and because Saul sought help from the witch of Endor, God's judgment came upon Saul.

    "So Saul died for his unfaithfulness which he had committed against the Lord, because he did not keep the word of the Lord, and also because he consulted a medium for guidance. But he did not inquire of the LORD; therefore He killed him, and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse." I Chr. 10:13-14.

    God brought judgment upon the Canaanite nations because of their occult practices, and He gave their lands to the Israelites. Then, God warned the Israelites that He would drive them from the land if they ever turned to the occult:

    "When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you...a consulter with familiar spirits...for all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee." Deut. 18:9,11,12, KJV

    The Deception

    Deception is always present in one's relationship with a familiar spirit. Usually, the one having a familiar spirit believes that his spirit-companion is good rather than evil, or thinks that something beneficial will come out of that relationship. He erroneously believes that the spirit is a true benefactor who will provide him with helpful information. He may even believe that the familiar spirit is the Holy Spirit. He will; therefore, be reluctant to part with something he believes is beneficial or that is of God.

    The person having a familiar spirit may not recognize that it is a spirit entity with whom he is having a relationship. He may think that his experiences are only within his imaginations and fantasies. Or, he may believe that he has contacted God's spiritual realm through his mind rather than through his spirit. Thus, he may be ensnared, not because he is seeking something evil, but because he is seeking something good in a wrong way .

    Necromancy, a supposed communication with the dead, is a facet of the familiar spirit's operation. Necromancy is an outright deception. Rather than communicating with a particular person, the medium is in contact with a spirit which is familiar with that dead person. The spirit is able to give information and produce manifestations which lead the necromancer to suppose that he has contacted the spirit of a certain dead person.

    The Attraction

    What draws a person into involvement with familiar spirits? The appeal of the occult is usually either curiosity or a desire for that which is hidden. One may have fascination with the supernatural, but may not know how to differentiate between the supernatural realm of God and that of Satan. Almost everyone wants to know what the future holds in store. It is easy, therefore, to be drawn into a scheme that claims to hold the key to knowing the unknown.

    Many, it seems, have been enticed by the desire to communicate with departed loved ones. A woman overheard my wife and me discussing familiar spirits. She thought that she was being visited by her deceased husband. She said that the spirit of her dead husband would come into her bedroom, sit on the edge of her bed and talk with her. She decided to test the phenomenon. When the spirit returned, she touched him on the nose and said, "You are nothing but a demon. I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. Do not come back anymore." The familiar spirit never returned.

    Christians, especially those suffering from rejection, inferiority and insecurity, are prone to crave an intimacy with the Lord which can draw them into unscriptural ways of achieving such closeness. For example, a Christian woman who had an unloving husband, was encouraged by a counselor to visualize Jesus as being her husband. She was to imagine Jesus coming through the door, hugging her and kissing her. Her visualized Jesus became very real to her, and she found this fantasy very satisfying. But one day her visualized Jesus became so intimate that he made sexual advances toward her. She was frightened enough to seek counsel which lead to her deliverance from a familiar spirit, the spirit of "another Jesus" II Cor. 11:4.

    An interesting experience involving a familiar spirit occurred while we were teaching in Europe. The church there had been organized by an anointed woman pastor, who had been deceased for several years. One night, the Lord revealed to Ida Mae, by means of a spiritual dream, that several in the church were being visited by an apparition of the former pastor. In the dream, Ida Mae was shown the apparition. It appeared very beautiful. When Ida Mae identified it as an apparition, the face became hideously demonic.

    The present pastor of the church, a young man, confirmed that everything Ida Mae was shown was true. Several older women in the fellowship were resisting the new, young leader and wanted everything to continue as it was before. These women, who had been closely related to their former pastor, so desired to stay in communication with her that they opened themselves up to being visited by the deceptive apparition. The sad part of the story is that the deceived women refused to believe that they were communicating with a familiar spirit rather than their deceased pastor.

    Satan is a sly deceiver. When forbidden things are sought; or when good things are sought in wrong ways, the devil is quick to take advantage.

    The Acquisition

    There are many avenues through which familiar spirits can be acquired. The following list is suggestive rather than exhaustive.

    1. Divination. Divination is broadly defined as an attempt to discern future events or to discover that which cannot be known by normal methods. The familiar spirit is sought to assist a person in his quest for hidden knowledge, guidance and power. There are many expressions of divination. Divination includes the practices of occultists, spiritist mediums, witches, Haitian voodoo priests, American medicine men and Siberian shamans.

    Water witching is a form of divination. In some communities there will be a particular person who is proficient in finding underground streams of water with a forked stick. As he holds the "Y" of his divining rod, the stick will turn forcibly downward when he walks over a spot that has underground water. The familiar spirit communicates with the diviner through his rod. One might reason that such a benefit could not be wrong, but God has judged it to be wrong. He calls divination an "abomination," and pronounces a curse upon anyone who practices it: "Thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those [Canaanite] nations. There shall not be found among you any one that...useth divination Deut. 18:9-10. You shall not...practice divination or soothsaying" Lev. 19:26

    As a young man, I learned to play with the Ouija Board. Years later, I discovered that Ouija was no mere game! I could ask Ouija a question, and he would communicate. I asked him many questions concerning my life's future, and Ouija had ready answers. I did not know that I was talking with a demon and becoming familiar with the devil's emissary.

    2. Transcendental Meditation. TM, a practice associated with Hindu worship, is accepted widely throughout western culture today. It is being taught in some colleges and even in some churches. Contrary to Christian meditation, which is an active reflection upon God and His Word; Eastern meditation is passive. Passive meditation coupled with trance-producing techniques and the chanting of a mantra, open a person directly to the demonic realm. In his attempt to discover true enlightenment, the TM practitioner empties himself of all self- identity and willpower. He opens himself to deceiving spirits who impersonate Deity and divulge false revelations of secret and hidden mysteries.

    3. Imaginary Playmates. It is not unusual to find a child who has an imaginary playmate. The invisible companion is very real to the child. In fact, the playmate may be invisible to others but appear visibly to the child. The imaginary playmate becomes a companion and a teacher of the child.

    What begins, in the child's imagination, as a technique to offset loneliness, evolves into a relationship with a familiar spirit. A four- year-old-boy, to whom we ministered, had an imaginary playmate whom he called Charcoal. We asked why he called his playmate "Charcoal," and he insisted that the playmate told him that his name was Charcoal. In order to be set free, the boy first had to fall out of agreement with the familiar spirit and, command him to go. Although he was normally an obedient child, he was so threatened by the prospect of losing his companion that he stubbornly resisted his father's coercion to renounce the demonic presence. After a successful deliverance, there was a marked improvement in the child's personality and behavior.

    In another case, my wife and I ministered to a young woman who was plagued by extreme supernatural phenomena. Poltergeists manifested themselves in her house; she experienced unsought astral travel, and possessed undesired psychic insights. The root cause for all the supernatural phenomena was, in her particular case, an early childhood relationship with an imaginary playmate. Her parents had divorced when she was four- years of age. Rejection and insecurity resulted because she was passed around for different ones to raise. She began to play with an imaginary friend, a familiar spirit, named "Genie." Interestingly, Genie (a derivation of jinn) is one of a class of spirits which assumes various forms, exercises supernatural power, and serves his summoner. The familiar spirit, Genie, was responsible for the occult phenomena.

    4. Visualization. Visualization is not a valid spiritual tool, although it is a common technique employed by some practitioners of inner healing and healing of the memories. Visualization is a method used for centuries by sorcerers to contact demonic powers. Some proponents of visualization contend that their Christian use of it represents the true counterpart of an occult counterfeit; but in Scripture, however, there is no basis for the use of visualization as a way of contacting God or of receiving spiritual benefits. Therefore, so-called Christian visualization is not a true counterpart to a counterfeit visualization, but rather is itself a counterfeit of faith. Faith has spiritual eyes which enable one to see the invisible. "Faith is the evidence of things not seen" Heb. 11:1. Visualization is an attempt to see, by the function of the natural mind, that which can only be seen by the spiritual eye of faith.

    A friend of ours became involved in visualizing Jesus. When she prayed, the presence she felt was so real that she would sit at his feet and place her head in his lap. She was shocked by the testimony of a prominent Christian leader who had herself discovered that the "Jesus" contacted through visualization was indeed "another Jesus" II Cor. 11:4.

    Our friend was brought to the realization that her "Jesus" was a familiar spirit, and she called for help. She was delivered from her bondage to the familiar spirit and now openly shares her testimony, so that others can be brought to the light of truth.

    Sometimes these familiar spirits of "another Jesus" become so familiar that they actually manifest their presence by speaking audibly and by touching the person.

    5. Drugs. Drugs, especially the hallucinatory drugs, provide a straight corridor into the demonic realm. This is true of all sorts of drugs ranging from the ancient peyote to modern drugs known as LSD and PCP. Such drugs alter the function of brain cells, and pave the way for an infinite variety of supposed revelations which are fostered by familiar spirits that were contacted via the drug-induced hallucinations.

    6. Rock Music. Those who are hooked on rock music are usually very defensive and unteachable. This rejection of truth is because rock music is a "religion" to the devotee, and to suggest that someone should give up his religion is a serious threat. Rock music requires as definite a commitment as does Christianity.

    Edward was a Christian teenager. He loved the Lord and was growing spiritually. Suddenly, Edward changed. He completely turned away from his Christian convictions. His parents were dismayed, and nothing they said or did had any effect on their son. Edward had a dramatic change in his personality. We asked his mother if he had become involved with rock music. The answer was "yes." His love for God and the Holy Spirit had been usurped by "another spirit" with whom Edward had become familiar.

    7. Games and toys. The devil is blatantly making his bid to control the lives of our nation's youth. Games and toys are a powerful influence in the training of children. Parents, the spiritual guardians of children, must be especially alert and vigilant today in order to protect their offspring from Satan's wiles.

    As we ministered to a five-year-old-boy, we discovered that he was emotionally attached to the hideous looking little creature known as ET, an extraterrestrial being. ET had ceased to be a mere fictional character in this young boy's experience. ET had become a living companion and friend who visited his bedroom and talked with him. He was conversing with a demon: a familiar spirit. In such ways the devil is conditioning children to relate to demons as friends. The child becomes accustomed to these demonic creatures to the extent that he is even comfortable with them when they materialize.

    Tom, a young man in his late teens, was controlled by a false personality. The alter ego was acquired through his involvement with the game "Dungeons & Dragons." The game requires role playing, and the player becomes totally identified with a fictional character. Often, the players dress in identifying costumes which portray the character they are to represent. Tom had gradually lost his own identity and had taken on the identity of his familiar spirit.

    8. Conversing with demons during deliverance. When demons are challenged, they sometimes speak through the person they indwell. A deliverance worker may cultivate a relationship with a demon by interrogating such spirits. In so doing, the deliverance minister becomes a medium through whom the familiar spirit imparts secret knowledge. If the information acquired through demons is accepted as truth, then testimony to what demons have said becomes a doctrine of demons:

    "Now the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons." I Tim. 4:1, (emphasis mine.)

    A man sent me a manuscript that he had written. He asked me to critique the material before publication. He had obtained supposed "top-secret" information on the hierarchy of spirits in Satan's kingdom by conversing with a demon in a person who had been involved in witchcraft. The book was dedicated, by name, to the demon who had given him the information. He thus allowed himself to become a spiritist medium communicating with a familiar spirit.

    A deliverance minister was sharing with one of our staff members his experiences in conversing with demons during deliverance. He said that he saw no need for giving up the practice of interrogating evil spirits. In fact, he found them to be entertaining. There was one that he especially enjoyed talking with because what this demon said always "seemed so cute." How could anything out of the mouth of a deceiving demon ever be considered "cute?"

    Conversing with demons can easily lead to the forbidden role of being a "consulter with familiar spirits" Deut. 18:11, KJV. If one becomes a communication link with the demonic realm, he becomes a spiritist medium; and the information he transmits is a "doctrine that demons teach" I Tim. 4:1, NIV. Thus, interrogation of demons, and conversation with them, is not only foolish but exceedingly dangerous. "Reasons Why We Should Not Converse With Demons," Demons and Deliverance In The Ministry of Jesus, by Frank Hammond; Impact Christian Books, Inc., Kirkwood, MO, pp. 20-25.

    9. Necromancy. God's Word clearly forbids communication with spirits of the dead. "There shall not be found among you anyone who...calls up the dead" Deut. 18:10,11.

    Some, whose loved ones have died, are tempted to communicate with them. Instead of contacting the spirit of their loved ones, they come into contact with familiar spirits who impersonate deceased friends or relatives.

    Teraphim, or household gods, are mentioned several times in the Bible. These were human figures and statues from which oracles were sought. These household images were made in the likeness of deceased ancestors. When Jacob separated himself from his uncle, Laban; Rachel stole her father's Teraphim. (Gen. 31). This passage reveals that Laban and his family were involved in idolatry. They believed that they could be helped by the spirits of the departed dead.

    When God told Jacob to return to Bethel (The house of God), Jacob said to his family; "Put away the foreign gods that are among you" Gen. 35:2, and the Teraphim were buried and left behind. Thereupon, the curse was avoided; and the blessings of God came to Jacob and his family, for, "The terror of God was upon the cities that were all around them, and they did not pursue the sons of Jacob" Gen. 35:5.

    Sometimes, displayed pictures of deceased parents, brothers, sisters, grandparents or other dead persons can attract familiar spirits. At one time, my wife kept pictures of her deceased parents and other family members in our bedroom. It gave her a sense of their continued presence in her life. The Holy Spirit convicted her that her dead parents were not her source of comfort, security or help. The pictures were put away.

    In a church which I pastored, the aged grandmother of one of our members died. Shortly afterward, I received a plea for help from the family . I was told that the grandmother was making appearances in the house, and that one member of the family was bitten on her thighs when she sat in her grandmother's favorite chair. The grandmother had been involved in witchcraft. It was necessary to remove all witchcraft paraphernalia from the house and to command the familiar spirit of the grandmother to leave. The procedure proved effective, and there were no further disturbances.

    The Scripture says, "There is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus" I Tim. 2:5. Also, Jesus declared, "No one comes to the Father except through Me" John 14:6. Jesus is the ONLY mediator and the ONLY way through whom we have access to the Heavenly Father.

    There are some people; however, who have been taught to pray to Mary, the mother of Jesus, or to other departed saints, as mediators. When men pray to the spirits of the dead, they are practicing necromancy and courting familiar spirits. Therefore, it is easy to understand why there are so many reported visitations by these forbidden mediators. For example, there is the "Virgin of Guadalupe" and the "Virgin of Medjugore", because familiar spirits manifested themselves when people prayed to Mary, the mother of Jesus.

    10. Incubus and Succubus. An incubus (from the Latin: to lie upon) spirit, is an evil male spirit that lies upon women in their sleep, ostensibly to have intercourse with them. The succubus (from the Latin: to lie under) is a female spirit that comes at night to have a sexual relationship with men. Definitions of incubus and succubus are given in Webster's Dictionary.

    These unclean familiar spirits are found to have been acquired through sexual promiscuity. Fornication, adultery and any sort of sexual deviation will give opportunity to spirits of sexual lust.

    One day, we invited a woman to come for deliverance. She met us at the home where we were staying. My wife and I took her into a bedroom where we could have privacy. The woman sat on the side of the bed, while we sat on chairs. During the course of the ministry, as we were commanding spirits of sexual lust and perversity to leave, a spirit of incubus manifested itself. It threw the woman backward onto the bed with her knees flexed and her thighs spread, and her bodily movements gave the appearance that she was having sex with an unseen being. This is a good example of why a man should not minister deliverance to a woman when he is alone.

    She said that this spirit of incubus came to her frequently while she slept. It was cast out by the authority of Jesus' name.

    Other deliverance experiences have led us to believe that involvement in the occult can open the door for spirits of incubus and succubus to enter. For example, we ministered to a Jamaican man who, along with relatives, had been deeply involved in voodoo. He was being tormented nightly by a succubus spirit. Not knowing the ways of God, he, in his desperation for help, had sought the help of a witch. After going through a witchcraft ritual, the problem was even worse than before. This man required deliverance from occult spirits in addition to a spirit of succubus.

    What could be more familiar than a spirit who comes to have sex with a person? It is understandable that people are often embarrassed to admit that they are having night visitations from incubus and succubus spirits, but it is the devil who makes people feel ashamed and afraid. We must expose the devil by bringing secret things into the light. "Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed" Jas. 5:16.

    The Deliverance

    Apply this teaching on familiar spirits to your own life. Has any door of opportunity been opened to familiar spirits? Is there any evidence of the presence of familiar spirits?

    Repent of each sin that has given opportunities for relationships with familiar spirits. God's Word warns that it is a sin to have a familiar spirit. A familiar spirit is not judged by whether or not it appears to be of benefit, but by what God has said about it.

    Renounce the familiar spirits. (Note: An individual can have more than one familiar spirit operating in his life.) Fall out of agreement with the familiar spirits. Destroy any thing that you have in your possession that would give a legal right for such a spirit to remain. Tell it that it is not needed or wanted.

    Resist and cast out the demonic spirits, using your spiritual authority as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. Employ the spiritual weapons of the blood of the Lamb, the name of Jesus and the Word of God, for these weapons "are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds" II Cor. 10:5 .

    Prayer and Warfare

    (Read aloud the following prayer)

    "Lord Jesus, I belong to You. You have saved me and redeemed me by Your blood. I have need of no spirit other than The Holy Spirit. Forgive me for having sought from other spirits that which should only come from You. I renounce and separate myself from all familiar spirits, however acquired. I call upon You, Lord, to deliver me from the lies and deceptions of familiar spirits. Teach me Your truth and Your ways. It is my earnest desire to walk in Your will and to glorify Your name. Amen."

    "Satan, I renounce you, and I take back all the ground that I ever yielded to you. God is my source of wisdom, knowledge, guidance and power. You familiar spirit, leave me, in the name of Jesus."

    "Thank you Lord Jesus for delivering me and cleansing me from all unrighteousness by Your precious blood. In Jesus' name. Amen."

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    I Have Never Seen No U-haul Behind a Hearse

    Monday, July 16, 2012, 7:00 PM [General]

    I was looking at the news this morning and they were talking about the storms, hurricanes, tornado, the heatwave and how our crops are damaged and that grocery prices or going to go up because of all these bad weather conditions.

    And I begin to think about how much stuff we humans save, put aside for a later date or just worship by looking at it and never using it.

    We have cars, boats, empty houses, summer homes, winter homes, vacation homes that no one ever goes to and we just keep them for the sake of keeping them.

    Let your family enjoy that stuff.  You can't take it with you.  Let your grand-kids drive that car, boat, etc.  Your getting old and your grand-kids may have to help you go to the bathroom one day and you want them to know who you are.

    I tell my grand-daughter "remember grandma but you that candy and when I get old don't you mistreat me you take me to the bathroom if I need help."

    God forbid!  But if they do have to help me I want to have a relationshio\p with her so that she will love me enough not to mistreat me.


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    relationship 101

    Saturday, July 14, 2012, 11:28 AM [General]

    If you are almost 100 years old still talkin' about your 50 yr old relationship quite it!

    You still talkin' about what happened back in the day!  We are tired of hearing about it!  Get some new information .  Shanekua!!!!

     We all know that relationships take work!  Stop talking about things you don't know about.  Ex. "Relationships"  there is nothing wrong with getting therapy.

    One reasona lot of us don't have lasting relationships is that we don't know how to talk to each other.  You can't talk to each other all crazy, put each other down and then want to get romantic.

    Hell!  I am still thinkin' about what you just said to me.

    Here's what I was told "get yourself a plant and start by nurturing that, then if you can keep the plant green flourishing and alive for thirty days by talking to it and saying kind things to it you can learn to transpose those loving conversations onto a relaitonship.

    Wanting an intimate relationship and than dating 100 different women is not conducive to you ultimately getting that one person that you want.

    You have to deal with 100 personalities, your confused, who want and like this person one day then you discover she has faults or baggage, so you decide she's not the one I am going to talk to the others.

    Stop it!  Listen! What's the common denominator?  There can't possibly be something wrong with every woman you meet so that means Yep!  "YOUR THE PROBLEM."

    Are your ideas of a women even based on reality?  You want her to be something that you aren't.

    For instance, why date women that you know are not faithful when you want one that is?

    They told me you can't make a whoe out of a housewife. This goes for men and women.

    Believe me I know I tried.  I know I could never be in a relationship with anyone who did not have my back that's I must for me.  So, when I see that you don't you must go!   NEXT!

    Ladies, we need to know and understand that we all have baggage that includes male and female.  He's coming with some and you are too.

    Dont be decieved there is no perfect man!

    This is what I was told "We all have baggage so get someon who will help you unpack."

    And if your not going to do that move out of the way cause your stopping progress.

    You may think he's the cat's meow and the dog's bow wow! but God will give you someone 10x better than that!




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    Sometimes You Have To Eat and Run

    Wednesday, July 11, 2012, 10:03 PM [General]

    In Exodus 12:11 These are your instructions for eating this meal: "Be fully dressed, wear

     your sandals, and carry your walking stick in your hand. Eat the meal with urgency, for

    this is the LORD's Passover."

    While reading Exodus 12:11 I realized something and that is sometimes God will give you

     a word and you must immediately put it into action.  God will give you a word so

    profound  and so unconceivable that when he says it you must immediately  put it into

    action before the enemy has time to make you think about how ridiculous it sounds. 

    Before our little finite minds can began to try to figure out how God is going to do it.

    In Exodus 12:11 God told the Israelites "Now you shall eat it in this manner: with your

    loins girded, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and you shall eat

     it in haste-- it is the LORD'S Passover."  American Standard Bible

    Now God gave the Israelites detailed instructions on what to do his first instruction to

     the Israelites was to "eat with their loins girded."  What that means is this they had to remove anything that would hinder them and being ready for the trip or to escape from the bondage in which they were in.  Basically, what God was saying is "GET READY CAUSE WHEN I MOVE YOU MOVE." 

    Secondly, "Eat with your sandals on your feet."  Normally their sandals would be removed in the house, but not here, the priority was fleeing bondage, so God told them to keep their sandals on.  God is telling you to keep on your sandals because "You Must Be Prepared To Walk Into Your New Territory."

    Third, God told them to "Eat with your staff in your hand."  Usually, their sstaff would be put up when they were home.  Again, God is demonstrating the urgency of being prepared when he says "move, go, leave."

    Lastly, God told them "You shall eat in haste."  What does that mean?  God is saying I am going to give you a word and that word is going to come to pass but I need you to be prepared to receive my promise so when I give you the word be prepared to walk into your promise land."

    Lord, Child!  I don't know if you got that word but I sure did.  I don't know I might have been preachin' to myself.  And if so it's o.k. cause I have just learned to "EAT AND RUN."




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    How Can They Hear Without A Preacher?

    Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 11:59 AM [General]

    "And How Shall They Hear Without a Preacher" (Romans 10:14)

    The Word of God says "But how can they call on him to save them unless they believe in

     him? And how can they believe in him if they have never heard about him? And how can

     they hear about him unless someone tells them?

    Now, why in the world do you think that there is so much controversy about our

    preachers of today?  Do you think that Preachers or just swindlers, liers and thieves?

    O.K., If you do let's see what the word of God says about you. 

    "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

    I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his

     ways, and according to the fruit of his doings." Jeremiah 17:9,10

    Well, that tells it all!  We expect that just because a man preaches the gospel that he

    has no faults.  That is the greatest fallacy! 

    Yeah!  Yeah! I know you still don't agree cause you believe that once a man accepts

    God into his life that he should walk the straignt and narrow and have no sin in his life.

    O.k., take a walk with me if you will through the word of God and let's see the

    behaviors of God's own disclipes.  Now, these of the men who walked with God. 

     Unlike today where we hear the word in believe; these men actually walked with him.

    Simon Peter-Fisherman, son of John "He cursed."  When asked if he knew Jesus when

     Jesus was captured he started cursing and denying that he knew Jesus.  You know

    how it goes "Hell naw'll I don't know him."

    Matthew-Tax Collector-(Tax Collector were known to be theives) It was a disrespected

     way of making a earning in those days.  Tax Collectors were not allowed to testify in

     court cause they were believed to be dishonest.

    Judas Iscariot-Guerrilla fighter, son of Simon-traitor, turned Jesus in to be crucified for

     thirty pieces of silver. I only named a couple of them but all of them had problems

    with belief or  faith at sometime in their walk with Jesus.

    I know, I know, you wouldn't have ever denied Jesus.  I hear a lot of us say that but

    we are the same people that will call and see if our crazy cousin is going to be at the

     family reunion and if we find out their going to be there we'll say "That's o.k, I ain't going."

    If we can't even handle our crazy cousin how are we going to be cruciified with Jesus?

    Anyway, the point is this: "All of us have sinned and come short of the glory of God

    and their is no righteous no not one."

    Preacher are humans.  We expect them to pull off things we can't even accomplish.

    Yes, I know that they are held to a higher standard but so are we if we are called

     Christians (Christ like) (the Image of God).  I don't care what their names are Bishop

     Noel Jones, Bishop T.D. Jakes, Bishop Eddie Long, Bishop Bloomer,Pastor Creflo

    Dollar,etc. they are

    all men human just like you and I.  The world  would  like you to believe that they  are just

    trying to rid the us of the unjustices done to God's people by the men of the clothe

    but look a little deeper.  Honey, the devil don't care nothin' bout you he's after the

    word.  Remember, the bible says "How can they hear without a preacher" well the plan

     of the enemy is to get rid of the preacher and thereby "GET RID OF THE WORD."  The

     next time someone wants to talk about the man of God say "Satan, I bind you, you

    ain't gettin' rid of my word."  Or better yet treat them like yo' crazy cousin and give

    them 50 feet.   Let's continue to support and pray for our men of God cause we know

    that it is more than a notion to deal with a multitude of people.  Remember, what it's

    like just to deal with your crazy cousin?  Imagine your crazy cousin times 1000.  Oh

    Lord, Help!  Let's just keep each other lifted up.  Jesus Is Coming!







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    Are So Called christians Really Reading The Bible?

    Tuesday, June 26, 2012, 12:04 AM [General]

    I can't believe some of the things people say! Are we really reading the bible.

    All of this he did this and she did that!  So, WHAT! The bible says there is nothing new under the Sun.  Meaning it's not news to God when a man and a women have sex outside of marrigage.  Have you read the stories in the bible?

    All through the bible relationships between man and woman have been problematic.

    Look at David and Bathsheba, Samson and Delila, King Soloman and many others.

    So, wants so starling about the relationships of today!  Here's what God told us to do "Watch As Well As Pray!"  And here's the ultimate goal "Greater Love has No Man than to Lay Down His Life For A Friend."

    Until we get to that point "It ain't nothin to talk about."  I am so glad that Jesus died on the cross for me and not none of ya'll or I would be in trouble.  I would have been stoned with all the stuff I have done.

    I love my brothers and sistas in Christ but we can get to deep some times.  It's simple we sin and that's it!

    Like the song goes "WE FALL DOWN BUT WE GET UP!"

    Bible basics:  "We are saved by grace and not by works lest any man should boast."

    Translation:  "WHAT YOU TALK'IN BOUT YOU AINT NO MATTER."  And neither am I.
     When Elijah got out of order with God, God neve yelled at him or belittled him and put him down.  God simply whispered to him in a still small voice.

    So, let's follow Jesus and whisper "We l-o-v-e you get back in line."

    Some us know the further down you have been the more compassion you have.





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    Baby Mama Drama

    Saturday, June 23, 2012, 10:44 AM [General]

    Baby Mama Drama

    Genesis 16:1-16

    Very simply, Abraham and Sarah his wife were passed child bearing age but God had promised them a son. Being impatient, as we humans are, and as was a custom then, Hagar tried to hurry things along. She told Abraham to take her handmaid, Hagar and have a son by her, which Abraham did. The son produced was named Ishmael but he was not the promised Son. In time, Sarah did conceive and bear a son, Issac, which was the promised son. Sarah became jealous of Hagar and asked Abraham to get rid of him and his mother Hagar, which Abraham did.  Issac was to father Jacob and Jacob was to father twelve sons, some of these to were by handmaids. These twelve sons were the twelve patriarchs, having the twelve tribes of Israel or the nation of Israel. However, Ishmael also had twelve sons that became large tribes but these were always the enemy of Israel and gave Israel much trouble over time. Just goes to show that our plans always get us in trouble when they don’t line up to God’s original plans for our lives.

    Hagar came from Egypt, and was never fully accepted into the tribal group.
    Sarah may have been a shortened version of Ummu-sarra, which means ‘the great mother is queen’.
    Abraham means ‘ancestor of many people’.
    Ishmael means ‘God hears’. Twice when Ishmael’s mother Hagar is abandoned by others, God hears her and helps her.
    At the beginning of the story of Hagar, Sarah and Abraham are called Sarai and Abraham; later in the story, God makes a promise to them, a covenant, and their names change to Sarah and Abraham. To minimize confusion, I have used 'Sarah' and 'Abraham' throughout

    This story is specifically for those who say that the bible is no longer relevant today.  And the bible doesn’t speak to today’s generation. It’s old school.

    These verses in the bible would read like a tv soap opera or reality show.

    Home girl decides she wants her girlfriend to be surrogate mother for her because she was just tired of waiting on God to give her a baby has he had promised.  You know how we get!

    Let me rephrase that you know how I get.  I can’t wait.  I want what I want and I want it now God!  What’s up?  You know I want a husband.  What’s taking you so long?

    She had the same problem “the I can’t waits.”  Yes, God and his angels had showed up on the scene and promised Abram and Sarai a baby by the next year.

    Sarai was probably like me “O.k, God it’s been 9 1/2 months I’m tired of waiting.  Then you start thinking, maybe I heard God wrong.

    Like Tyler Perry’s character Madea says “God, takes to long sometime.”

    And because of Sarai impatience she told Abram that he could have her maid as a surrogate mother for her.

    So, Abram being the typical man obliges her.  He goes in to her (they have sex) and she becomes pregnant and has a baby boy named Ishmael.

    After Hagar has Ishmael she starts mistreating Sarai.  Hagar gets an attitude because now she has a baby by Sarai husband and she knows Sarai doesn’t believe that she can have a baby.

    Yeah!  Baby Momma Drama!

    How many of us have had children and now have a baby daddy’s cause we couldn’t wait on God to send the right man into our lives.

    When we take matters into our own hands we usually make a mess that we then need God to help us straighten out.

    Like Sarai did with Hagar.  Things got worse for Hagar because of the attitude and the way that she started treating Sarai after she had Ishmael.  Sarai told Abraham to get rid of her.

    Now, if you were ever in a relationship and have had a baby by a man and then he finds another woman and tells you to get lost you know how Hagar felt.

    Yep! She was devastated.  How could you do this to me?

    But listen, even though all of this has happened to her and she felt devastated and wanted to die God still had a plan for her.

    So listen sistas, if your going through the same situation and your feeling like you can’t make it “YOU CAN.’

    Don’t give up! God has a plan!  The word of God says “What was meant for bad for you God will work out for you good.”

    He knew what was was going to happen to you before you were in your Mother’s womb.  This is not knew information to God.

    And if you will read the end of the story not only did God bless Hagar but he used her son Ishmael and made a great nation from him.

    Your child is not a mistake.  Your situation is not hopeless but your faith in God and let him work it out.

    Isaiah 43:3  says “God will be your husband.”  Let God be the husband for you.  God is called the husbandman because he knows how to take care of you.  Here’s some unique qualities that God has that you can’t get in most men.

    1.  He listens

    2.  He is interested in the intricate details of your life

    3.  He knows what you need before you ask

    4.  He there at your beckon call

    5.  He never gets tired of you

    6.  He never holds your past mistakes over your head

    7.  Your important to him at all times

    And listen to what he says when you cry “Is that my baby cryin’ let me go see what she needs.”

    Honey!  I don’t know about you but that’s my kind of man! Now that's the line I'll be standing in! Sha ba!

    Here’s a prayer that I used and that you may find helpful.



    Dear God,

    Please untie the nots that are in my mind, my heart and my life.

    Remove the have nots, can nots and do nots that I have on my mind.

    Erase the will knots, may nots, might nots that may find a home in my heart.

    Release me from the could nots, should nots, would nots that obstruct my life.

    And most of all Dear God,

    I ask that you remove from mind, my head, my heart and my life all of the am nots that I have allowed to hold me back. 

    Especially the thought that I am not good enough.

    I ask you to do a great work in me and remove all of the nots immediately so that I may do your will.

     I seal this prayer in the precious blood of Jesus.



    Below is the story in full detail if you would like to read it.

    1 Now Sarai Abram's   wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name   was Hagar.
      .2 And Sarai said unto Abram,   Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto   my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to   the voice of Sarai.
      .3 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid   the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave   her to her husband Abram to be his wife.
      4 ¶ And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she   had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes.

    1 - [Polygamy] Sarai (later "Sarah") doubted and   made the proposition to her husband who, like Adam, fell into sin. Then in   verse 5, the parallel continues. Sarai blamed Abram.
      God had given the principle of marriage of only one man with one woman. ge0224. Many others in the OT (Old   Testament) copied Abram's bad example and we may be tempted to wonder if the   original plan was unimportant.
      The archaeological discovery of documents in or near Abram's native country   outlined this very plan of a a wife offering for her servant to bear a child   when she was unsuccessful. This confirms the idea that Abram and Sarai were   following a plan which was was not of divine origin. ge1502.
      God had more than one good reason for telling Abram to get up and leave Ur ge1201.

    5 And Sarai said unto   Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when   she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: the LORD judge   between me and thee.
      6 But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thy hand; do to her as it   pleaseth thee. And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face.

    6 - In thy hand The Mesopotamian code of Hammurabi allowed a   concubine who claimed equality to be marked as a slave but not sold.
      6 - Dealt hardly This may imply corporal punishment. So much   of the world's misery is based on defending or demanding selfish interests.   It is not God's way.
      See r09m for the Islamic connection here.

    7 ¶ And the angel of   the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain   in the way to Shur.
      8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou   go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.
      9 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit   thyself under her hands.

    7 - Angel of the Lord   Was this the Messiah?   I believe so considering v10 and v13.
      9 - Return ... and   submit Submission was already implied in the way He   addressed her. This command does not excuse Sarai's behavior. God will   finally deal with unconfessed sin. It is generally not the responsibility of   the oppressed to punish their oppressors. The cycle of revenge is not broken   except by forgiveness and withholding retaliation.

    10 And the angel of   the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall   not be numbered for multitude.
      .11 And the angel of   the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son,   and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
      12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every   man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his   brethren.

    To a great degree this   prophecy continues to be fulfilled. A large part of the Christian church   today mistakenly assumes that the Arabic people are to be dealt with harshly.   I don't believe this is God's plan any more than it was for Sarai.

    .13 And she called the   name of the LORD that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I   also here looked after him that seeth me?
      14 Wherefore the well was called Beerlahairoi; behold, it is between Kadesh   and Bered.

    The Angel named the   child and Hagar names the Angel. It was at least her name for Him.

    15 And Hagar bare   Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.
      .16 And Abram was fourscore and six years old,   when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram

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