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2 years ago  ::  Oct 27, 2015 - 11:15PM #1
Ironhold
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2 years ago  ::  Oct 28, 2015 - 12:44AM #2
mountain_man
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The first line of that article; "The IRS targeting and muzzling of conservative groups during the 2012 presidential campaign is an outrage for which almost no one has been held accountable" is an outright lie. This is just another fake scandal that so called "conservatives" thrive on. Why do they have to lie so much? How come so many are stupid enough to fall for those lies?

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 28, 2015 - 9:47AM #3
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Hey, what else are the House Republicans going to do since they have no interest in passing any meaningful legislation-- It's the "Do-Nothing Congress" run by the "Party of No", remember?    

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 28, 2015 - 10:16AM #4
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What's undeniable is that on May 10, 2013, the then head of the IRS, Lois, Lerner, admitted targeting, calling it “absolutely incorrect, insensitive, and inappropriate.” Four days later, on May 14, 2013, the Inspector General issued a report confirming targeting.


Additionally, when the scandal broke in 2013, Obama - after accepting the resignation of the acting IRS commissioner -- himself said that he was “angry” at the targeting of conservative groups. “Americans have a right to be angry about it, and I’m angry about it,” Mr. Obama said at the White House, calling the agency’s actions “inexcusable.” “It should not matter what political stripe you’re from. The fact of the matter is, the IRS has to operate with absolute integrity,” the president said.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 28, 2015 - 11:20AM #5
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It's interesting that they want to impeach someone that was found innocent of any wrong doing, innocent of any criminal activity, and of breaking no laws/rules after 4 investigations by 4 different agencies. Does reality mean nothing to Republicans?

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 29, 2015 - 6:05PM #6
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Oct 28, 2015 -- 11:20AM, mountain_man wrote:


It's interesting that they want to impeach someone that was found innocent of any wrong doing, innocent of any criminal activity, and of breaking no laws/rules after 4 investigations by 4 different agencies. Does reality mean nothing to Republicans?



The GOP reality is that they know that their base will not check to confirm any of their claims, so they can make whatever noises they please, to appeal to that base.  The base doesn't know anything about what actually happened, they only know that conservative groups were targeted in some way, and they plug their ears when Obama disapproves as much as they do.  The GOP won't say that he does, so he doesn't to the base.


I've come to the conclusion that the GOP candidates cannot be as stupid as they pretend to be, that they are pandering to a base that wants the nonsense to be true, and will believe anything at all that it is told.


In answer to your question; no, GOP voters don't care at all about reality, and the GOP candidates know that and make claims accordingly.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2015 - 7:19AM #7
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Oct 29, 2015 -- 6:05PM, Svetlana wrote:


Oct 28, 2015 -- 11:20AM, mountain_man wrote:


It's interesting that they want to impeach someone that was found innocent of any wrong doing, innocent of any criminal activity, and of breaking no laws/rules after 4 investigations by 4 different agencies. Does reality mean nothing to Republicans?



The GOP reality is that they know that their base will not check to confirm any of their claims, so they can make whatever noises they please, to appeal to that base.



Another trick they learned from the fundamentalist xristian creationists. Make any claim you want, no matter how outrageous or dishonest, knowing full well that the gullible butts in the pews will believe every word you say because they will be too wilfully ignorant and lazy to fact check. This keeps the base appropriately pissed of at whomever they want them pissed off at (scientists, liberals, democrats, the LGBT community, immigrants, etc.).


The xristian creationists have been doing this for 200+ years. It's been pretty successful for them over the years as demonstrated by the high percentage of US Americans who still believe that the Flintstones was actually a documentary.


Not surprising that the right wing conservatives take a page out of the creationist handbook when "acceptable" dishonesty is needed.

"creationism" ... 2000+ years worth of ABYSMAL FAILURE ... and proud of it.
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2 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2015 - 7:25AM #8
Midutch
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Oct 29, 2015 -- 6:05PM, Svetlana wrote:


Oct 28, 2015 -- 11:20AM, mountain_man wrote:


It's interesting that they want to impeach someone that was found innocent of any wrong doing, innocent of any criminal activity, and of breaking no laws/rules after 4 investigations by 4 different agencies. Does reality mean nothing to Republicans?




In answer to your question; no, GOP voters don't care at all about reality, and the GOP candidates know that and make claims accordingly.



It does seem that the GOP base constantly NEEDS something to be mad about (IRS "targetting", gun control, global warming, immigrants, Obama, the Theory of Evolution, Christian "persecution", the gays, etc.), even if the "problem" is wholly false and fabricated.


Give them their due credit, the GOP leadership is very good at using this fake outrage to turn out the vote.

"creationism" ... 2000+ years worth of ABYSMAL FAILURE ... and proud of it.
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2 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2015 - 11:29AM #9
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Oct 30, 2015 -- 7:19AM, Midutch wrote:

....Not surprising that the right wing conservatives take a page out of the creationist handbook when "acceptable" dishonesty is needed.


Climate change deniers use the same tactics.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2015 - 1:11PM #10
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Oct 30, 2015 -- 11:29AM, mountain_man wrote:


Oct 30, 2015 -- 7:19AM, Midutch wrote:

....Not surprising that the right wing conservatives take a page out of the creationist handbook when "acceptable" dishonesty is needed.


Climate change deniers use the same tactics.



Which they also learned from the anti-science creationists.


It's very effective for "convincing" those people who prefer ignoring, rejecting, dismissing, disparaging and outright lying about the science in order to maintain their "worldview". It's been working for the creationists for over 200 years. It's bound to be as "convincing" in the climate change "debate" since many, if not most of those "discrediting" the established science are pretty much the same people.


The "arguments" ("it's all a lie", "there is no evidence", "it's all a big global conspiracy", "the scientists are doing it for the grant money", "they're faking the evidence", "more and more scientists are abandoning the theory", "this person has a science degree so what they say about it is true, while the thousands of degreed scientists who disagree with him/her are just out to get him/her", "it's just another attempt to bring about the new world order/lead us away from Jeebus/destroy the USofA", etc.) are pretty much exactly the same since, well, more or less the same people are saying it.

"creationism" ... 2000+ years worth of ABYSMAL FAILURE ... and proud of it.
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