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2 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2012 - 4:16PM #1
vra
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From Politico:  Jon Huntsman on Monday joined a chorus of center-right critics who are questioning the GOP’s reliance on the conservative media establishment, saying the party needed to move beyond “pontificators …who are making millions.”

“If we used all that energy spent on the president’s birth certificate or tax reform or on Afghanistan, we’d be in a much difference place today,” the former Utah governor said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “We do have, you know, some pontifcators in our party, we have a media elite in a sense on the right, they’re making millions and millions of dollars talking about all the incendiary aspects of public policy. We need solutions as opposed to people in search of a larger audience. I don’t know how you go about incentivizing solutions, but that is where the party needs to go.”

In the wake of an election where conservatives routinely accused independent pollsters of skewing their results and right-wing pundits missed election predictions by broad margins, some Republicans are questioning their party’s reliance on Fox News and other conservative outlets...

Read more: www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83707...
 



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2 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2012 - 4:23PM #2
Qwesam
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Propaganda is only work in closed community or Communist country.


It failed miserable on free WORLD.  If conservative Republicans want to feel good, watch Fox News. If they want to know the true/real news, watch CNN.

***Watching Foxnews makes you dumb and dumber than your friends who watch NO News. It is on the survey!

***Don’t listen to what Republicans say, look what they do to Women’s rights.
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2 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2012 - 4:27PM #3
teilhard
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John Huntsman was -- IMHO -- the BEST Candidate on their Side ... and almost NOBODY in The GOP took him seriously or to Heart ...

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2012 - 4:41PM #4
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Huntsman was perhaps the only Republican in the race I had much respect for.  Not that I don't disagree with a lot of his policies. But he strikes me as a pragmatist, not an ideologue.  Which is where the party needs to go.

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2012 - 4:55PM #5
teilhard
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He is a "Centrist" ...


Nov 12, 2012 -- 4:41PM, TemplarS wrote:


Huntsman was perhaps the only Republican in the race I had much respect for.  Not that I don't disagree with a lot of his policies. But he strikes me as a pragmatist, not an ideologue.  Which is where the party needs to go.





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2 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2012 - 5:17PM #6
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Nov 12, 2012 -- 4:55PM, teilhard wrote:


He is a "Centrist" ...




He's a conservative. He supports Ryan's economic plan, which is as conservative as they come. But he's indicated a willingness to listen to and respect other ideas.  Which is why most everybody else in the party distrusted him.


 


 

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2012 - 7:35PM #7
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Nov 12, 2012 -- 4:16PM, vra wrote:

From Politico:  Jon Huntsman on Monday joined a chorus of center-right critics who are questioning the GOP’s reliance on the conservative media establishment, saying the party needed to move beyond “pontificators …who are making millions.”


“If we used all that energy spent on the president’s birth certificate or tax reform or on Afghanistan, we’d be in a much difference place today,”

Read more: www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83707...
 



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Wrong.


 With the % of american and non american voters who pay nothing in taxes now outnumbering


those who work and do pay taxes , the need to keep the  gravy train rolling will


be voting issue #1 from now until the end .


The trend for the increasing rather than declining numbers of people not paying taxes with each


passing day is irreversible.


Yes? No?


Thus the only winners from here on out are those  championing the gravy train , which is


ctually more of a rocket sled to hell.


Those are the statistical facts. 

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2012 - 8:05PM #8
mountain_man
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Nov 12, 2012 -- 7:35PM, hamerhas wrote:

With the % of american and non american voters who pay nothing in taxes...


Every American that buys something pays taxes. Every American that has a job pays taxes. Even those unemployed pay federal income tax on their unemployment INSURANCE benefits. Those retired pay taxes in that income too.


..now outnumbering those who work and do pay taxes...


That's nothing but Regressive propaganda. It is the rich that are not paying taxes at a rate they should be.

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2012 - 8:20PM #9
hamerhas
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Nov 12, 2012 -- 7:35PM, hamerhas wrote:


Nov 12, 2012 -- 4:16PM, vra wrote:

From Politico:  Jon Huntsman on Monday joined a chorus of center-right critics who are questioning the GOP’s reliance on the conservative media establishment, saying the party needed to move beyond “pontificators …who are making millions.”


“If we used all that energy spent on the president’s birth certificate or tax reform or on Afghanistan, we’d be in a much difference place today,”

Read more: www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83707...
 



Agree? 





 



Wrong.


 With the % of american and non american voters who pay nothing in taxes now outnumbering


those who work and do pay taxes , the need to keep the  gravy train rolling will


be voting issue #1 from now until the end .


The trend for the increasing rather than declining numbers of people not paying taxes with each


passing day is irreversible.


Yes? No?


Thus the only winners from here on out are those  championing the gravy train , which is


ctually more of a rocket sled to hell.


Those are the statistical facts. 




Right .


The percent of people who pay no federal income tax is at an all time low ,


and the number of people on food stamps is at an all time low as well.

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2 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2012 - 10:51PM #10
mountain_man
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Nov 12, 2012 -- 8:20PM, hamerhas wrote:

The percent of people who pay no federal income tax is at an all time low ,


and the number of people on food stamps is at an all time low as well.


You don't seem to have a firm grasp on reality. Record numbers of people are on food stamps and other kinds of assistance because the Regressives totally screwed up the economy. What you are completely incapable of realizing is that corporate welfare is at an all time high too. Corporate profits have increased under Obama than they have under any president for almost 100 years. So, the question to ask all these "job creators" is; were are the jobs?

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