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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 3:31AM #151
in_my_opinion
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Sep 17, 2012 -- 3:25AM, Miraj wrote:


Sep 17, 2012 -- 2:48AM, CharikIeia wrote:


Sep 17, 2012 -- 2:07AM, Miraj wrote:


... there's also no excuse for allowing the media to dictate the focus of your outrage and the limits of your knowledge of what's going on in the world ...



No excuse? Excuse me...


The point here is, pointedly expressed, that savages don't have the qualifications to use the internet. It requires at least one semi-educated half-wit to beat them into a frenzy over a little heap of shit produced 8,000 miles away.


There is a reason why there exists such a discipline as journalism. Not everyone is capable of putting things into perspective, and certainly educated experts are more trustworthy than your local village Imam, or some Coptic buddy of Terry Jones.




Journalism is no longer a discipline; journalists are rarely experts.  I do agree that there are too many half-wits that allow what they see on the Internet to whip them up into a frenzy.  Message boards are full of them.



Not only that but a few have been caught lying to make the story juicier. That wasn't just spinning it but outright untruth.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 3:40AM #152
CharikIeia
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Sep 17, 2012 -- 3:25AM, Miraj wrote:


Journalism is no longer a discipline; journalists are rarely experts.



Only if a society allows that.


Over here, with our tradition of public broadcasting, what you say is just not true.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 3:43AM #153
Miraj
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Sep 17, 2012 -- 3:28AM, in_my_opinion wrote:


Sep 17, 2012 -- 3:05AM, Shusha wrote:


They weren't really Christians. 



Fair enough. The one's who do harm to innocents are not really Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, etc either! That is the real lesson here.


You can call the devil an angel but he isn't one after he becomes an evildoer.  It doesn't matter what he used to be or what he calls himself. His own action belies him.




The habit of insisting that the evildoer redefines the faith when his acts contradict that faith is a curious one that few adherents ever apply to their own belief system.  A Muslim who acts or encourages acts in contradiction of Islam doesn't redefine the faith for all the other Muslims, and he certainly doesn't redefine it against God's Word.  He simply leaves Islam to act upon his own desires, for there is no way to justify his beliefs and actions as being part and parcel of dictums that are in opposition to the evil acts.  The same is true for those that do harm in the name of any faith that contradicts their beliefs and actions.


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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 3:45AM #154
Miraj
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Sep 17, 2012 -- 3:40AM, CharikIeia wrote:


Sep 17, 2012 -- 3:25AM, Miraj wrote:


Journalism is no longer a discipline; journalists are rarely experts.



Only if a society allows that.


Over here, with our tradition of public broadcasting, what you say is just not true.




 I will say that Europe does a better job than what is offered through the US media.  As is obvious, there isn't a lot of interest in venturing far outside of the usual box for some Americans.

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2 years ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 8:06AM #155
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Sep 17, 2012 -- 2:07AM, Miraj wrote:


Sep 17, 2012 -- 2:04AM, rangerken wrote:


Deplorable actions in he past by various people, states, religions, groups etc, do not justify others doing the same thing today.


Ken




It's never justified, but, there's also no excuse for allowing the media to dictate the focus of your outrage and the limits of your knowledge of what's going on in the world.  It's not just the past, either.  There are massacres going on right now that aren't getting the attention this does.  Do you  (generic "you") ever ask why, or do you just don't care?




The non generic 'me' agrees with you. What goes on in places like Nigeria, for example, should get a lot more coverage.


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2 years ago  ::  Sep 24, 2012 - 9:01AM #156
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Lybia seems to be putting its actions where its mouth is. Good for Lybia.


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It's important to recognize positive...and civilized...and admirable actions when they occur!


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