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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 5:10PM #21
Cowfornow
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Aug 20, 2012 -- 2:20PM, TemplarS wrote:


Aug 20, 2012 -- 1:59PM, newsjunkie wrote:


Numerous Republicans are putting pressure on Akin to drop out of the race. Is the moderate wing of the GOP finally finding a backbone and standing up to a Tea Party Republican? More importantly, who would be getting on the ballot in Missouri to take his place?





Well, of course this is not about being a moderate or a conservative, it is about common sense and decency.  One can have very conservative views on abortion and still be horrified by this individual.


If Akin leaves the race it won't be for his politics, it will be for not having the sense to keep his mouth shut. 


 




I have the local news on right now, and the names they are touting as possible replacements should Akin drop out are as far right or more so than he is.  I don't know if there is such a thing as a moderate Republican in Missouri anymore, not since the days of John Danforth (who has had some very harsh words for the current crop of tea baggers).  It's no accident that Limbaugh is from this state. 


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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 10:47PM #22
Do_unto_others
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Aug 20, 2012 -- 1:13PM, Girlchristian wrote:

Republicans are overwhelmingly denouncing Akin and calling him out for his remarks and even going as far as to demand he end his campaign, www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/....





Akin was/is a co-sponsor - with Paul Ryan! - of the national version of the 'personhood' bill (similar to the ones that failed - miserably - in Mississippi) which would make two of Robme's sons guilty of murder, since they used IVF to make babies. IVF kills fertilized people (aka eggs).


Rs can "denounce" Akin all they want. But his particular brand of looneytunes has become the new 'normal' in the Republican Party.


They. Hate. Women. They make it clear every day with new utterances like this.


Frankly, I hope Akin stays in - to remind women what they will lose under the Rs.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 10:53PM #23
Do_unto_others
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Aug 20, 2012 -- 1:26PM, Stardove wrote:


Goodness, my inbox has been full of emails today about this matter.

The following is the results and conclusions of a three year study conducted by US National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health.


Rape-related pregnancy: estimates and descriptive characteristics from a national sample of women.

RESULTS: The national rape-related pregnancy rate is 5.0% per rape among victims of reproductive age (aged 12 to 45); among adult women an estimated 32,101 pregnancies result from rape each year. Among 34 cases of rape-related pregnancy, the majority occurred among adolescents and resulted from assault by a known, often related perpetrator. Only 11.7% of these victims received immediate medical attention after the assault, and 47.1% received no medical attention related to the rape. A total 32.4% of these victims did not discover they were pregnant until they had already entered the second trimester; 32.2% opted to keep the infant whereas 50% underwent abortion and 5.9% placed the infant for adoption; an additional 11.8% had spontaneous abortion.

CONCLUSIONS:  Rape-related pregnancy occurs with significant frequency. It is a cause of many unwanted pregnancies and is closely linked with family and domestic violence. As we address the epidemic of unintended pregnancies in the United States, greater attention and effort should be aimed at preventing and identifying unwanted pregnancies that result from sexual victimization.







If "the juices flowed" they must have 'wanted it' and thus it wasn't a "Real Rape".


Besides, the Rs don't want exemptions for rape victims. They want to force them to carry their rapist's seed as punishment for being, to quote Rush Limpbaugh, a "slut".


This is a summary of what Rs think of women. Why any thinking woman would ever vote for one of them is beyond belief.


Thank you for the info and the source re the 32,000 pregnancies as a result of rape in America - per year - as opposed to the R myth of "none" or "rare".

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 21, 2012 - 12:09AM #24
mountain_man
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Aug 20, 2012 -- 10:53PM, Do_unto_others wrote:

Thank you for the info and the source re the 32,000 pregnancies as a result of rape in America - per year - as opposed to the R myth of "none" or "rare".


That 32,000/year number is scary. That's only the rapes that cause a pregnancy.


Something has got to be wrong with that number. That's 3.5 rapes PER HOUR that cause a pregnancy? What I could find was 85,000 reported rapes in the USA last year.  We'll be conservative and say only half were reported. That's 19.5 rapes per hour.


That number is one I don't want to believe. But that's a conservative number. One article said that up to 95% of rapes are not reported. That would mean a person is raped every two minutes.


No wonder this society is so screwed up.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 21, 2012 - 9:34AM #25
Ebon
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Aug 21, 2012 -- 12:09AM, mountain_man wrote:

That 32,000/year number is scary. That's only the rapes that cause a pregnancy.


Something has got to be wrong with that number. That's 3.5 rapes PER HOUR that cause a pregnancy? What I could find was 85,000 reported rapes in the USA last year.  We'll be conservative and say only half were reported. That's 19.5 rapes per hour.


That number is one I don't want to believe. But that's a conservative number. One article said that up to 95% of rapes are not reported. That would mean a person is raped every two minutes.


No wonder this society is so screwed up.



Once you start running the numbers, it gets scarier.


According to RAINN (who claim to be the USA's largest anti-sexual violence organization), around 54% of rapes and sexual assaults go unreported and, once you factor that in, only 3% of rapists serve jail time. Here, it's even worse. UK unreporteds are estimated at up to 75%. And remember, most rapists don't just rape once and then stop. If they get away with it the first time, chances are they'll keep doing it, over and over again. Chances are, they don't even feel guilty about it. Maybe they justify it to themselves somehow, blame the victim maybe. Maybe they're outright psychopaths who have no empathy, guilt or remorse.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 21, 2012 - 10:26PM #26
newsjunkie
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Here's how a person like Akin can have such an asinine notion that a woman who is raped has natural defenses against pregnancy:


Get an anti-abortion activist with Dr. in front of his name come up with a cockamaimie theory. Anderson Cooper explains here.


This goes directly to what I said in my previous post. There is so much garbage spewed out on the internet and churches by anti-abortion groups, and people with limited critical thinking skills and knowledge of basic human reproduction, people can actually think this crap makes sense. And when you show them how ridiculous it is, the screwball theory because it supports their anti-abortion views.


Propaganda works. Sadly.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 12:11AM #27
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Now I realise this is a sign of my becoming very cynical, but I think it is simply an excuse to allow sexual predator to go free. It is a complete disdain for female people. Women have no value at all. Women are not even second class citizen they are less in the eyes of this type of man. It is more than trying to make abortion illegal. It is a process to remove all power from women.


The wonderful religious right in the United States are gaining ground in treating women the same way they do in some middle eastern countries. I wonder when the first Christian "honour" killing will occur when the bride turns out to be not a Virgin? Or perhaps, when the female is not obedient enough.  Its coming. It will come if people do not fight back. And I do not mean violence, before all the right wingys start screaming otherwise. It is the right wing that invites and desires violence. As they desire and ache for total control


This is the religious right wing christian taliban's push to put women back under total control of men, white men.


If you do not believe it all you have to do is actually look at what the right wing have been doing.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 12:23AM #28
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I hope this means Clare McCaskill (sp?) will retain her Senate Seat !!!


 

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 3:48AM #29
Cowfornow
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Aug 22, 2012 -- 12:23AM, jane2 wrote:


I hope this means Clare McCaskill (sp?) will retain her Senate Seat !!!


 





Yeah, I actually had my fingers crossed most of the day hoping Akin would not drop out, because it's got to have McCaskill doing cartwheels.  What a gift!  Even if he drops out later, this is, hopefully, beyond any damage control the wingnuts can muster.  All I could think about Akin was that he seems to have forgotten the phrase "pride goeth before a fall."  His arrogance is astonishing.


Oh well, hope he is enjoying the taste of that foot wedged in his mouth.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 5:50AM #30
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Do_unto_others:  Rs can "denounce" Akin all they want.


I agree with a pic I saw on FB, where it basically says Romney and other Repubs are only angry Akins was dumb enough to spit out what they really think out loud.

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