Aug 11, 2012 -- 1:18AM, Shusha wrote:

The girl should provide a list of all boys she has had sexual encounters with and they should all be expelled for a home study as well.  Fair is fair. 

Yep.  Absolutely.  

Ironically Virgin Mary would be expelled and ostracized by these nimrods. 

We had something like half-a-dozen pregnant girls in my final year in school (age of consent is 16 here and most of us didn't wait that long). The school didn't expell them and as I understand it, couldn't legally do so.

Aug 11, 2012 -- 3:17PM, IreneAdler wrote:

 

When I went to school, they transferred the pregnant girls to a continuation high school. Kinda wondered why this was necessary- did they think pregnancy was something ‘catching’ like the flu?   My understanding was that it was necessary to provide a flexible schedule for the pregnant girls (which only the continuation school could provide). Don’t know if this facilitated completion of their education or not, but that didn’t seem to be important to the admin.  Getting the pregnant gal away from the other students was paramount.  This move also shamed the girl as the continuation high school was established for those who couldn’t hack regular school (for whatever reason). Signaled failure.

Seems to me if home schooling results in a 70% drop out rate, then something else must be done here. The young soon-to-be mothers are the ones in greatest need of completing their education- they have a child to support (and no telling what kind of family situation is present to lend assistance).  Schools should make the greatest effort assure they complete their schooling. Easier said than done though.

Irene.

they do indeed feel teen motherhood is contagious, and they have good reasons to think it does. 

In my experiences with the pregnant friend I had as a teenager and latter when I worked in the school the pregnant/teen mother school was an alternative school and it was very positive a real "Yes, you  can graduate high school while having this baby"  kind of message.  Also often times these girls no longer fit in with the typical High School culture and wanted to be around girls like them. 

Aug 11, 2012 -- 7:14PM, Erey wrote:

Aug 11, 2012 -- 3:17PM, IreneAdler wrote:

 

When I went to school, they transferred the pregnant girls to a continuation high school. Kinda wondered why this was necessary- did they think pregnancy was something ‘catching’ like the flu?   My understanding was that it was necessary to provide a flexible schedule for the pregnant girls (which only the continuation school could provide). Don’t know if this facilitated completion of their education or not, but that didn’t seem to be important to the admin.  Getting the pregnant gal away from the other students was paramount.  This move also shamed the girl as the continuation high school was established for those who couldn’t hack regular school (for whatever reason). Signaled failure.

Seems to me if home schooling results in a 70% drop out rate, then something else must be done here. The young soon-to-be mothers are the ones in greatest need of completing their education- they have a child to support (and no telling what kind of family situation is present to lend assistance).  Schools should make the greatest effort assure they complete their schooling. Easier said than done though.

Irene.

 

they do indeed feel teen motherhood is contagious, and they have good reasons to think it does. 

In my experiences with the pregnant friend I had as a teenager and latter when I worked in the school the pregnant/teen mother school was an alternative school and it was very positive a real "Yes, you  can graduate high school while having this baby"  kind of message.  Also often times these girls no longer fit in with the typical High School culture and wanted to be around girls like them. 

Erey- do you have any idea what the drop out rate for young mothers was for this alternative school? I like the "you can graduate high school whlle having this baby" mindset.  IF their dropout rate is way less then 70% it would be interesting to know what they are doing right. Is it simply the positive attitude or is there more?

As far as being with girls in similar situation, while that is certainly a good reason for removing them from their school, I wonder if some would rather stay with their friends?  Is this a choice for the girl -stay where they are or join the alternative school?

IRene.

Aug 12, 2012 -- 1:39AM, Cowfornow wrote:

Way, way back in the late '60s when I graduated, we had some pregnant girls in our high school in a smallish midwestern town.  As far as I could figure out, the school had a "don't ask, don't tell" head-in-the-sand policy.  The girls who gave up their babies for adoption (the main option back then) attended school in increasingly dowdy, baggy blouses until things got too obvious, then "went to spend three or four months helping my sick aunt in Indiana" (I don't know why it was usually Indiana), then returned, babyless and sans tummy, no real questions asked.  A few, usually seniors, stuck it out and did the shotgun marriage route right after graduation, but most of those seem to have continued on to college anyway.  Some of those with the Indiana Aunties also went on to college and reclaimed their kiddies at some point as single parenthood became more acceptable.  I don't know if there were any alternative schools in nearby towns, certainly not in ours, but I don't think there were very many who dropped out just because of pregnancy and did not return.  We had a few early marriages but even those, whether because of pregnancy or just because they wanted to be married, tended to stay in school.  Our town was pretty fanatical about education, though, which may have skewed things from whatever the norm was.

I thought the recent policies were more inclusive of students as parents, with day care and special classes.  Has that changed everywhere, or is this latest just some idiotic aberration?  I swear, if we keep going backward in social policies, I should at least be able to turn the clock back on my age to keep current with it.

Nearest I can see, this latest generation of radical republicans have no heart or compassion so they want to eliminate all they disagree with.

And what they disagree with is people not doing as they are told like the borg. Females are already forth class citizens in the eyes of such people, a teen getting pregnant puts her down below farm animals headed for slaughter. They want her out of the way.

A pregnant teen is a prime example of disobedience to them, personally, and they don't want any one to get any ideas about being disobedient ever again. Particularly females.

That is really what is comes down to. This type, who sends pregnant teens away, feels threatened in their authority, and they want the reminder removed. It is a power and control issue.