Jun 28, 2012 -- 9:26PM, Ironhold wrote:

Jun 28, 2012 -- 8:00PM, arielg wrote:

What is stupid about it? There are millions of people who did not have or want health insurance, for whatever reason and now they are forced to buy it  from the insurance monopoly. Millions of new customers that the industry did not have before. Why wouldn't they be happy?

In my case, the law's made me a criminal.

I have 18 months to either get rich enough to afford health care or kick the bucket.

Otherwise, they sic the IRS after me.

Histrionics and wild claims aside, criminality is determined by a court, exercising its criminal, as opposed to the civil, bench.  Maybe listening less to Rush, and giving more attention to your health care concerns, and a health-care exchange, or the federal one which will provide care, in the alternate, will guide you, at least in regard of presenting Wingoclaims then making them constructive reality.

Jun 28, 2012 -- 9:46PM, Habala?! wrote:

Jun 28, 2012 -- 9:26PM, Ironhold wrote:

Jun 28, 2012 -- 8:00PM, arielg wrote:

What is stupid about it? There are millions of people who did not have or want health insurance, for whatever reason and now they are forced to buy it  from the insurance monopoly. Millions of new customers that the industry did not have before. Why wouldn't they be happy?

In my case, the law's made me a criminal.

I have 18 months to either get rich enough to afford health care or kick the bucket.

Otherwise, they sic the IRS after me.

What do we have here? A conservative complaining about having to pull himself up ny his own bootstraps?

I think that Wingoism has become unhinged, and thus, Wingy.  I don't know how to resolve these contradictions, short of a war on little, brown people who don't know the Lord Jesus, and a budget that doesn't take into account $1 trillion in unfunded expenses. 

So, is this Obamacare a good thing for Americans, or a bad thing? 

I didn't know what it was all about, so I did a little Googling, and I found that people responding in blogs, etc. were about equally divided as to whether this is a good thing or a bad thing.

Does this mean that all Americans have to buy health insurance or they won't be treated by doctors?  Wouldn't that be kind of expensive for a lot of people?  Health insurance premiums aren't cheap.

This all just sounds like something dreamed up by insurance companies.

And why should people have to pay a penalty if they don't have health insurance?  Sounds kind of draconian.

But why come up with all these complicated arrangements anyway?  Why doesn't America simply copy the British-style system?  It has many advantages.  Under universal care you take more responsibility for your own health, and learn how to monitor and care for your body.  You see fewer specialists because your GP treats a wide range of problems.  And there is a lot more after-hours coverage.

Jun 28, 2012 -- 9:12PM, mountain_man wrote:

This is the worst decision ever! It's horrible, now people will be able to afford medical insurance. We all know where this is headed and that has some people really scared; the end of the insurance companies. With their demise we will end up with single payer health care. And without those giant health insurance companies donating millions of dollars to Regressives, they'll lose some of their grip on society. They won't like that.

Given what has just happened over the past couple of years, why on Earth would any pol think of bringing up single-payer health care?  Especially since no one in the upper levels of political leadership made any effort to bring up single-payer this time around, even though it had public support.   No, I do not think we will see single-payer for at least several administrations, thanks to ACA

Jun 28, 2012 -- 9:46PM, Habala?! wrote:

Jun 28, 2012 -- 9:26PM, Ironhold wrote:

Jun 28, 2012 -- 8:00PM, arielg wrote:

What is stupid about it? There are millions of people who did not have or want health insurance, for whatever reason and now they are forced to buy it  from the insurance monopoly. Millions of new customers that the industry did not have before. Why wouldn't they be happy?

In my case, the law's made me a criminal.

I have 18 months to either get rich enough to afford health care or kick the bucket.

Otherwise, they sic the IRS after me.

What do we have here? A conservative complaining about having to pull himself up by his own bootstraps?

It's called "no American citizen should be forced to accept government money to keep in line with government obligations."

The whole situation is inherently FUBAR.

If you can't see that, you need to step back and find another perspective.