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12 months ago  ::  Jun 16, 2012 - 12:26AM #1
solfeggio
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politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/15...

Michigan State Representative Lisa Brown, a Democrat, was barred from the floor of the Michigan State Legislature Thursday for using the word 'vagina.'  She was arguing against a package of abortion regulation bills before the Legislature.

www.detroitnews.com/article/20120614/POL...

The Floor Leader said that Brown's comments 'violated the decorum of the house.'

Another representative, Barb Byrum, was also banned from the floor for talking about vasectomies.

This week, the Michigan State Legislature passed a slate of hard-line anti-abortion bills.

reason.com/blog/2012/06/15/four-reasons-...    

So, are they hoping to go back to the bad old pre-Roe v Wade days, or what? 
  

     
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 16, 2012 - 8:47AM #2
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Many State legislators stupidity is exceeded only by some at the national level.   I guest h cannot use their own congressman Gary Peters( 9th MI), or former VP Dick Cheney. Or Senator Dick Durbin . Wonder if this post will be edited if I mention my two cats,  Bigun ,a tom cat and middy a pussy cat.  How can any law concerning  abortion be written without the word vagina?  

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 16, 2012 - 1:36PM #3
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Jun 16, 2012 -- 12:26AM, solfeggio wrote:

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/15...

Michigan State Representative Lisa Brown, a Democrat, was barred from the floor of the Michigan State Legislature Thursday for using the word 'vagina.'  She was arguing against a package of abortion regulation bills before the Legislature.

www.detroitnews.com/article/20120614/POL...

The Floor Leader said that Brown's comments 'violated the decorum of the house.'

Another representative, Barb Byrum, was also banned from the floor for talking about vasectomies.

This week, the Michigan State Legislature passed a slate of hard-line anti-abortion bills.

reason.com/blog/2012/06/15/four-reasons-...    

So, are they hoping to go back to the bad old pre-Roe v Wade days, or what? 
  

     



Republican white men want to legislate womens bodies, but don't want women to legislate theirs, or have power over their own.


It is men working hard to remove the rights women have gained over the years. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with life or abortion. It is "how dare women have a say over their own life" Soon we will hear a call to remove the voting rights of women. I am waiting.


She was suspended because she dared to speak, with out nodding in full agreement to the men.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 18, 2012 - 1:48PM #4
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Jun 16, 2012 -- 8:47AM, fodaoson wrote:


Many State legislators stupidity is exceeded only by some at the national level.   I guest h cannot use their own congressman Gary Peters( 9th MI), or former VP Dick Cheney. Or Senator Dick Durbin . Wonder if this post will be edited if I mention my two cats,  Bigun ,a tom cat and middy a pussy cat.  How can any law concerning  abortion be written without the word vagina?  




Maybe they should just say "winky" and "whoo-hoo."
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 18, 2012 - 4:48PM #5
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"Majority Floor Leader Jim Stamas, R-Midland, said the decision to bar Brown from speaking was not her reference to the female anatomy, but her conduct.


'My concern was the decorum of the House, not of anything she said,' Stamas told the newspaper. 'I ask all members to maintain a decorum of the House, and I felt it went too far yesterday.'"


I don't think she went too far at all.  If our representatives aren't allowed to get a little passionate to prove a point, then that's pretty sad.  

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 10:57AM #6
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When the appropriate medical term for a body part in question lacks decorum, someone needs to be removed from the floor of the house for lacking a brain.

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 10:58AM #7
REteach
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Couldn't happen in Kansas, though, because they banned Sharia law.  Apparently Christian Sharia is a live and well in Michigan.

I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize what you heard was not what I meant...
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 1:54PM #8
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Silenced Mich. lawmaker does 'Vagina Monologues'

LANSING, Mich.  -  A state lawmaker who says she was barred from speaking in the Michigan House because Republicans objected to her saying "vagina" during debate over anti-abortion legislation performed "The Vagina Monologues" on the Statehouse steps — with a hand from the author.

Eve Ensler, whose groundbreaking play about women's sexuality still packs theaters 16 years after it debuted, oversaw Monday night's performance by Democratic state Rep. Lisa Brown, 10 other lawmakers and several actresses.

More at the link.


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12 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 3:43PM #9
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Love the audience

and for further clarification I am not protecting Obama and blaming Bush.  The entire political process is nothing more than a boondoggle and pay for play.   Not only has it been going on for a long time but has achieved epic levels and will get worse with each succeeding presidency.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 3:56PM #10
mytmouse57
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Personally, I think the Rep. in question acted/is acting like an obnoxious, pissed-off teenager. 


That said, the powers that be are equally silly. Legislators should be allowed to be obnoxious. As the old saying goes, give 'em enough rope...


If well enough had been left alone, she might very well have torpedoed herself with her own snotty tirade. (The validity of her point being lost in the delivery.)


But as it is, the entire episode has just blown up into a huge sympathy card for her to play. And playing it she is. 


 No need to boot somebody out because they're not playing nice, so to speak. That's ulta-uptight and silly, IMO. 


In the end, a foolish over-reaction to something foolish just made bigger fools. 
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