| 11 months ago :: Jul 10, 2012 - 8:51AM #291 | |
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If she is, as she claims to be an expert authority on Islamic Law, then what she says regarding her area of expertise is true. If your car breaks down then you would go to an automechanic because that is his area of expertise he is an "authority" on fixing cars. You wouldn't go to a doctor to fix it, because he is not an "authority" on cars. What the automechanic says is the problem with your car is true. What the doctor says is the problem is not true.
The Fiqh Courts are BOTH "religous" AND "civil" courts. They must stay within the bounds of Sharia-God's Law.
Well that depends on what is meant be "someone else". For example if by "someone else" means someone who is not a Muslim it is not true. If a Muslim women marries an Atheist(God Forbid) man and a contract-Katb el-Kitab is signed then it does affect the "someone else-Atheist." If a Secular Company signs a contract with an Islamic Company and "someone else-non-muslim." Then it does affect "someone else."
That is true Sharia-Islamic-God's Law is not a threat to Secular Civil Law thanks to James Madison PBUH. Yet! Neither is Sharia-Islamic-God's criminal law a threat to Secular Criminal Law. Yet! This is due to James Madison MJBH(May Jesus Bless Him) and the U.S. Secular Constitution.
I like your Avatar even though I don't "know" why you choose it. I would like an Avatar of a crucifix instead of a Star of David because I believe Jesus was a Secularist, in that he "rendered on to Ceasar what was Ceasar's and God unto to God."
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| 11 months ago :: Jul 10, 2012 - 10:17AM #292 | |
The rest of your post was nothing but your over analyzing what I said instead of your trying to understand what I said. Try listening instead of anal-yzing.
Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.
I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife. |
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| 11 months ago :: Jul 10, 2012 - 7:13PM #293 | |
Don't be stupid. The statement was simply that you cannot use religion to skirt laws. Please participate in an adult manner.
You miss the point.Think a little. The point was that those who oppose harmless holiday displays seem to have no problem with actually allowing Islamic laws to be considered by the courts.
If you think it is about dietary laws then you certainly do not understand the crux of the discussion. |
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| 11 months ago :: Jul 10, 2012 - 7:27PM #294 | |
I'm also OK with allowing a creche on government property as long as there is a Star of David, Crescent and Stars, and a Circle and Pentacle as well. You OK with that too?
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| 11 months ago :: Jul 10, 2012 - 7:38PM #295 | |
I disagree somewhat. Yes, Wiki has it's faults but it is tremendously accessable.
He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. ~ Proverbs 14:31
Fiat justitia, ruat caelum
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| 11 months ago :: Jul 10, 2012 - 7:50PM #296 | |
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I agree it is a logical fallacy. I do not know of any expert authority who hasn't been wrong. However experts are more "likely-probably" to...speak the truth than people who are not expert.
But I doubt that Miraj will agree that she is committing the logical fallacy from authority. I suspect that she was being...facetious when she said: "That's what I said, so it must be true :-)
I was just pointing out the flaws in what you said.
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| 11 months ago :: Jul 10, 2012 - 8:12PM #297 | |
You did not point out any "flaws" in what I said but only pointed out your not understanding what I said.
Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.
I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife. |
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| 11 months ago :: Jul 10, 2012 - 9:16PM #298 | |
Yeah,yeah,yeah. Whine about ad homs after posting nonsense. Well then don't post nonsense. As for avoiding "reasonable accomodation", I don't always make a habit of a sentence by sentence rebuttal. Sometimes just the main points. Religious acomodation applies to work. We are not talking about work,but enforcement of law. And once again for the slow, the point about sex with minors ws to show that religious expression cannot override laws.Grow up.
And yet these same people that see harm in a manger scene don't see harm in allowing Islam into the US court system. That would be my point. Thanks for helping make it.
Completely. I suppose you expected different by your wording. Sorry.I don't ask for or expect special treatment for any religion.
But please show me examples of these Christian courts.
Then you answer your own question of when you claimed it.
You did not make any argument.You just asked a silly irrlevant question about an issue no one mentioned |
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| 11 months ago :: Jul 10, 2012 - 9:51PM #299 | |
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But I didn't use it. I explained how it can be used. I explained how Miraj could use it.
One example: " These "courts" are religious courts, not civil courts. They have say only within the bounds of their religion. This is flawed because Figh Courts are BOTH religous AND civil courts. These "courts" are religious courts, not civil courts. They have say only within the bounds of their religion.
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| 11 months ago :: Jul 10, 2012 - 9:58PM #300 | |
Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.
I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife. |
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