It appears that we can eat water, sand, gravel, and the remains of any plant or critter that has died from natural causes, accidents, etc. Thank god for roadkill.
It appears that we can eat water, sand, gravel, and the remains of any plant or critter that has died from natural causes, accidents, etc. Thank god for roadkill.
It appears that we can eat water, sand, gravel, and the remains of any plant or critter that has died from natural causes, accidents, etc. Thank god for roadkill.
It appears that we can eat water, sand, gravel, and the remains of any plant or critter that has died from natural causes, accidents, etc. Thank god for roadkill.
Pennsylvania Possum Pot Pie
Five-pound possum, cut into serving pieces; water; salt; 12 peppercorns; two ribs celery, chopped; two carrots, quartered; one onion; two cups flour; four egg yolks; six tablespoons hot water
Place possum in kettle. Add water to cover, salt to taste, peppercorns, celery, carrots and onion. Simmer until possum is thoroughly tender, about two hours. Strain broth and pour into clean kettle. Simmer while preparing remaining ingredients. Remove possum from bones. Discard bones and skin. Cut possum into bite-size pieces. Sift flour and one-half teaspoon salt together onto board. Make well in center and put egg yolks into it. Gradually work yolks into flour until stiff dough is formed, adding hot water as needed. Knead until smooth, about five minutes. Cut dough in half. Roll each half until paper thin. Cut dough into noodles about one inch wide. Add possum to simmering broth. Gradually add noodles. Continue boiling until noodles are done, about five minutes.
I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
Sorry for the late replies, but I kinda work long hours and that leaves me little time, and I tend to head over to Discuss Christianity first before going to bed, LOL.
Erey: I never thought of a plant creating fruit to distract from itself. I suppose that might be one reason.
Well, there are plants that reproduce in other, non-fruiting, ways. However, seeds and the dispersal mechanism assures that even if the parent plant is eaten, there's a good chance the seedling will grow up somewhere else.
Note: this does not always work. My two labs will not only eat figs right off the tree but we had to put doggie fences around all the trees because, apparently, the fruit trees themselves taste just as good, LOL.
mainecaptain: I don't think of them as lesser beings. In fact I am inclined to think of them as better beings.
I think of them as different. I am far too sci-fi reared, LOL, to assume that just because the Horta isn't humanoid it isn't cool. :)
As for root vegetables that is a hard one. I try to think of them as dormant until they sprout, thus alleviating myself of the feeling of killing them. I know it is mental gymnastics but it works. I just put sprouted Onions in the garden. Could not eat them after that.
Well, nothing in that article told me anything new, but I keep up on cognitive sciences when I can (though it was easier in college when there were subscriptions to scholarly journals I didn't have to pay for). I'm also inspired by an episode of Tiny Toons when I was younger, where Buster and Babs deal with the morality of eating animals, only to have the cartoony veggies scream in terror at the end.
Also, I grew up on the Muppets. No one on the Muppet Show would ever admit to eating pork and get out of an episode without internal bleeding, LOL.
mountain_man: Sure, plants can release certain pheromones and hormones that make changes in the plant, but it's not a thought process but a chemical process that is in no way similar to our own chemically brought about thought processes. Not even close.
But it's all a matter of degree. If we were to respect ALL life we'd die of starvation and infection. I'm not saying I expect my tomato to talk. I'm only asking at what point do we admit we kill in order to survive?
fodaoson: To continue on this nonsensical path, Think of onion and potatoes as plant embryos,i.e. plant abortions. Apples contain seeds that are Potential new apple trees so we are eating potential apple again … There is only one thing that is for sure for all seeds, plants, animals and Humans; DEATH. Some of each get to experience life but not all and not of the same quality and quantity.
LOL.
Though, to be fair, seeds are "designed" to be eaten, for the POINT is to be carried off somewhere else and dumped in a pile of ready fertilizer. Smart, no?
farragut: It appears that we can eat water, sand, gravel, and the remains of any plant or critter that has died from natural causes, accidents, etc. Thank god for roadkill.
Maybe we should just stick to scavenging. However, aren't we sorta doing that at the supermarket? Most of the ones I've been to (and I've only really seen some seafood sections where this doesn't apply) sell dead food. Since they're already dead, we're not murdering them, right?
Knock and the door shall open. It's not my fault if you don't like the decor.
***"Respect" for ALL Living Things -- including pesky "Weeds" and lowly "Bugs" -- indeed DOESN'T mean that we all slowly suicide by Starvation and Passivity ...
It DOES mean granting and practicing and cultivating Respect, Compassion and Dignity for ALL Living Things whether we EAT them or not and whether or not they think and feel in the SAME Ways as WE do ...
The Fact is that we advanced brilliantly sentient Humans are UTTERLY totally Dependent upon all other Living Things on The Earth in an exceedingly complex Web of interacting dynamic Relationships ...
We all NEED each OTHER ... and we NEED The "Others" to BE "Other" ...
Sorry for the late replies, but I kinda work long hours and that leaves me little time, and I tend to head over to Discuss Christianity first before going to bed, LOL.
Erey: I never thought of a plant creating fruit to distract from itself. I suppose that might be one reason.
Well, there are plants that reproduce in other, non-fruiting, ways. However, seeds and the dispersal mechanism assures that even if the parent plant is eaten, there's a good chance the seedling will grow up somewhere else.
Note: this does not always work. My two labs will not only eat figs right off the tree but we had to put doggie fences around all the trees because, apparently, the fruit trees themselves taste just as good, LOL.
mainecaptain: I don't think of them as lesser beings. In fact I am inclined to think of them as better beings.
I think of them as different. I am far too sci-fi reared, LOL, to assume that just because the Horta isn't humanoid it isn't cool. :)
As for root vegetables that is a hard one. I try to think of them as dormant until they sprout, thus alleviating myself of the feeling of killing them. I know it is mental gymnastics but it works. I just put sprouted Onions in the garden. Could not eat them after that.
Well, nothing in that article told me anything new, but I keep up on cognitive sciences when I can (though it was easier in college when there were subscriptions to scholarly journals I didn't have to pay for). I'm also inspired by an episode of Tiny Toons when I was younger, where Buster and Babs deal with the morality of eating animals, only to have the cartoony veggies scream in terror at the end.
Also, I grew up on the Muppets. No one on the Muppet Show would ever admit to eating pork and get out of an episode without internal bleeding, LOL.
mountain_man: Sure, plants can release certain pheromones and hormones that make changes in the plant, but it's not a thought process but a chemical process that is in no way similar to our own chemically brought about thought processes. Not even close.
But it's all a matter of degree. ***If we were to respect ALL life we'd die of starvation and infection. I'm not saying I expect my tomato to talk. ***I'm only asking at what point do we admit we kill in order to survive?
fodaoson: To continue on this nonsensical path, Think of onion and potatoes as plant embryos,i.e. plant abortions. Apples contain seeds that are Potential new apple trees so we are eating potential apple again … There is only one thing that is for sure for all seeds, plants, animals and Humans; DEATH. Some of each get to experience life but not all and not of the same quality and quantity.
LOL.
Though, to be fair, seeds are "designed" to be eaten, for the POINT is to be carried off somewhere else and dumped in a pile of ready fertilizer. Smart, no?
farragut: It appears that we can eat water, sand, gravel, and the remains of any plant or critter that has died from natural causes, accidents, etc. Thank god for roadkill.
Maybe we should just stick to scavenging. However, aren't we sorta doing that at the supermarket? Most of the ones I've been to (and I've only really seen some seafood sections where this doesn't apply) sell dead food. Since they're already dead, we're not murdering them, right?
Indeed. I have no issues with eating meat, though I do not like to hear if animals were ruthlessly treated beforehand. It's not like beating the crap out of a cow adds vitamins or anything. Stressing animals causes buildup of chemicals that surely affect the meat.
I have no problem with the veggie crowd (not very fond of vegetables, myself, as I tend to eat a bland, bread-heavy diet ... can't help it), though I wish there would be more attention paid to the arbitrary nature of our diets. Hummingbirds don't get the luxury of debating the ethics of drinking nectar. That's all they got. The fact we can have debates at all means our bodies can technically accept a wide range of foods.
There is no one-size-fits-all diet. Anyone who comes up and tells me I must absolutely change to this diet because they felt better after they did is an automatic logic black hole to me. We all have needs. While there are some general health things to think about, the fact remains that what I need is not necessarily the nutritional workup YOU need.
Knock and the door shall open. It's not my fault if you don't like the decor.
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