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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 10:00AM #1
Marcion
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Is this guy serious?


www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/still-wa...

The fact that Obama aligned himself with the Reverend Al makes him super black.

As for a level playing field; the field was leveled decades ago what remains id for people to quit whining, get off their butts, and actually play on the field. Before you liberal pc types attack, check Bil Cosbys position on this.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 10:47AM #2
BDboy
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Jun 3, 2012 -- 10:00AM, Marcion wrote:


Is this guy serious?


www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/still-wa...

The fact that Obama aligned himself with the Reverend Al makes him super black.

As for a level playing field; the field was leveled decades ago what remains id for people to quit whining, get off their butts, and actually play on the field. Before you liberal pc types attack, check Bil Cosbys position on this.




 


>>>>>>>> These are natural debates within various groups. Bill Clinton was known as the "First black leader" for his focus to improve conditions of the African-american communities.


There are people who are happy with Obama but others think he is not doing enough for "His people".


There are other groups who feels he has put Israel under the bus (Romey said it) and there are Americans who feel he is fighting battles for Israel instead of America.


I am sure we'll know how much people feel about him come November.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 11:05AM #3
mountain_man
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Jun 3, 2012 -- 10:00AM, Marcion wrote:

The fact that Obama aligned himself with the Reverend Al makes him super black....


Since when has Obama "aligned" himself with Sharpton? Or is this just an excuse to carry your irrational hatred of Sharpton over to Obama?


I don't get my political views from comics nor does a comic speak for the whole Black community or race.

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 11:27AM #4
teilhard
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Who really cares what Bill Cosby thinks ... ???


Jun 3, 2012 -- 10:00AM, Marcion wrote:


Is this guy serious?


www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/still-wa...

The fact that Obama aligned himself with the Reverend Al makes him super black.

As for a level playing field; the field was leveled decades ago what remains id for people to quit whining, get off their butts, and actually play on the field. Before you liberal pc types attack, check Bil Cosbys position on this.





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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 1:46PM #5
rabello
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Jun 3, 2012 -- 10:47AM, BDboy wrote:


>>>>>>>> These are natural debates within various groups. Bill Clinton was known as the "First black leader" for his focus to improve conditions of the African-american communities.


There are people who are happy with Obama but others think he is not doing enough for "His people".


There are other groups who feels he has put Israel under the bus (Romey said it) and there are Americans who feel he is fighting battles for Israel instead of America.


I am sure we'll know how much people feel about him come November.




Obama turned out to be a major disappointment, showing himself to be more of a liberal-leaning Republican rather than a conservative-leaning Democrat.  Too bad he didn't align himself a little more with Al Sharpton!  All that inspirational campaign rhetoric that made women weep (or pass out) turned out to be just borrowed from others who believed in the prinicples behind the words.


BUT


Romney is such a dishonest and shallow character, he'd be worse the Bush2.   So it's back to voting for the lesser of two evils, at least for voters who live in the swing states.  Those who live in a blue state (like me), or a red state, have the luxury of voting our conscience, or not voting at all, thanks to the Electoral College.   Ridiculous situation for the world'd symbol of freedom -- Which wealthy coroporatist should we vote for???


The editorial's author's opinion is just an opinion that won't go anywhere, even if it should.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 5:04PM #6
arielg
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It is good that the black pastors think Obama is not black enough.  He is not supposed to be a black president.  He should represent and work for  principles  that are common to the whole country,  not any particular segment.


And what are the  "black issues" he should be working for anyway? Maybe if someone could define what a black issue is, one  could discuss whether he is black enough.


According to some, there are too many blacks in prison.  Maybe there are more blacks in prison becaue they commit more crimes, duh!.  How is the president going to fix that? Set a quota of blacks that are sent to prison?   What is he going to do about black  poverty? Distribute money?


In the name of working for justice, some people, who are stuck in their skin color, keep  fostering divisions.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 5:10PM #7
Marcion
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Jun 3, 2012 -- 5:04PM, arielg wrote:


It is good that the black pastors think Obama is not black enough.  He is not supposed to be a black president.  He should represent and work for  principles  that are common to the whole country,  not any particular segment.


And what are the  "black issues" he should be working for anyway? Maybe if someone could define what a black issue is, one  could discuss whether he is black enogh.


According to some, there are too many blacks in prison.  Maybe there are more blacks in prison becaue they commit more crimes, duh!.  How is the president going to fix that? Set a quota of blacks that are sent to prison?   What is he going to do about black  poverty? Distribute money?


In the name of working for justice, some people, who are stuck in their skin color, keep  fostering divisions.


Right!, and that's why the reverend Al and Jesse Jackson stil have a job. If some weren't so stuck in their skin these scoundrels would have disappeared long ago.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 6:03PM #8
rabello
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Harrumph


The answers to the questions come not from Bill Cosby, but from the author of the article, who is professor of political science.  


There are many quoteable passages from that article which deserve attention, I'll just stick with the last:



There is a time for symbols, but there is also a time to place interests above symbolism. Symbols can inspire, but they can also legitimize conditions as they are. What is at stake now is more than pride, more than history, more than an imagined color-blind, post-racial society. What is at stake is our ability to ensure and commit to policies that not only “help everyone” but that directly target the persistence of racial inequality. Pride cannot stand in as a cure for Depression-level unemployment, for a community on the front lines of the mortgage crisis, for the ravages of AIDS or for the hope that a rising tide will lift us all.


If he won’t do it on his own, Obama will have to be pressured to act and to keep the few promises he made to black America in 2008. The abolitionist Frederick Douglass said it best: “Power concedes nothing without demand. It never has, and it never will.”




Fredrick Harris is a professor of political science and the director of the Institute for Research in African-American Studies at Columbia University. This essay is adapted from his book “The Price of the Ticket: Barack Obama and the Rise and Decline of Black Politics,” which will be published next week.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 04, 2012 - 12:50PM #9
farragut
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"The president should be a statist"


 


Unfortunately, he is a statist.

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