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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 8:08AM #1
Ironhold
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Seriously - according to reports, the folks at Guantanamo would play Sesame Street songs 24/7 to try and break some of the inmates down there.

Believe it or not.
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 8:34AM #2
Nepenthe
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I do believe it.  Sleep deprivation can be a nasty form of mental and physical torture.  I would guess that it is not as bad as isolation, but still pretty bad.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 8:40AM #3
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Jun 1, 2012 -- 8:08AM, Ironhold wrote:

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Seriously - according to reports, the folks at Guantanamo would play Sesame Street songs 24/7 to try and break some of the inmates down there.

Believe it or not.



They used Sesame Street music because the Attorney General determined that Barney the Dinosaur music was inhumane torture.  This fact was established after consulting thousands of parents of three-year-olds.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 11:01AM #4
Ebon
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Jun 1, 2012 -- 8:08AM, Ironhold wrote:

Seriously - according to reports, the folks at Guantanamo would play Sesame Street songs 24/7 to try and break some of the inmates down there.

Believe it or not.



I believe it entirely. It doesn't really matter what the song is or even if there are lyrics at all, it's the monotony, the sheer relentlessness of it that makes it so terrible for the listener. Plus, sleep deprivation has all kinds of nasty effects including mental and physical illness. Which is why the US State Department and the British Foreign Office consider it a form of torture. The European Court of Human Rights classifies it as "inhumane and degrading treatment" (one step down from outright torture as a war crime) which also makes it a violation of the ECHR. We have these rules for a reason.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 1:41PM #5
mytmouse57
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The "Elmo" theme song is torture even once.


Imagine having to hear it over and over.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 2:05PM #6
rabello
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Of course I "believe" it.  This has been known for a long time.  It is something every American should know about.


They didn't just use the Barney Song...they used metallic rock and acid rock played over and over again at eardrum-piercing volumes, along with strobe light, sleep deprivation that lasted over a week at a time, dietary manipulations to cause cramps and things like diarrhea but without depriving the victim of needed daily nutrients -- with "Slim Fast".


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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 5:47AM #7
Iwantamotto
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I like SST songs.  I still sing the ones I learned as a kid.  Heck, sometimes I play them on the way to work (they're upbeat, not super crappy, nonviolent ... perfect low-stress songs, LOL).


Unworthyone:  They used Sesame Street music because the Attorney General determined that Barney the Dinosaur music was inhumane torture.  This fact was established after consulting thousands of parents of three-year-olds.


LOL!  Yes, give me "Cooperation ... makes it happen ... cooperation ... working together!"   Play "I love you, you love me ..." I ... I can't even regurgitate a verse of that crap.  *shudders*


mytmouse57:  The "Elmo" theme song is torture even once.


LOL, ok, ok ... there's that one.  :D


Don't let that little red devil irritate you.  Stick to classic Street, before he became popular.  :D

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 9:46AM #8
Ebon
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I love you / you love me / let's gang up and kill Barney

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 03, 2012 - 3:42PM #9
TPaine
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If they really want to break the prisoners at Gitmo, they could run episodes of Jersey Shore, The Jerry Springer Show, or My Mother The Car at full volume 24/7. Either that or a compilation of all George W. Bush's speeches would work.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:58PM #10
rangerken
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If it makes the GITMO inmates unhappy, uncomfortable, annoyed, and prone to whining I'm all for doing more of it.


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