Strong Support for Gay Marriage Now Exceeds Strong Opposition

IreneAdler

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Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:15PM, mainecaptain wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:11PM, IreneAdler wrote:

Side question- on the video- what is the symbol on the pulpit?

Thanks.

Irene.

It looks like and Egyptian Ankh, although I have seen Christians use it as a stylised cross.

Thank you! That explains things.

Irene.

Stardove

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Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:21PM, IreneAdler wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:15PM, mainecaptain wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:11PM, IreneAdler wrote:

Side question- on the video- what is the symbol on the pulpit?

Thanks.

Irene.

It looks like and Egyptian Ankh, although I have seen Christians use it as a stylised cross.

Thank you! That explains things.

Irene.

Exactly. The Ankh Cross also known as the Ansata Cross and the Egyptian Cross

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mainecaptain

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Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:21PM, IreneAdler wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:15PM, mainecaptain wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:11PM, IreneAdler wrote:

Side question- on the video- what is the symbol on the pulpit?

Thanks.

Irene.

It looks like and Egyptian Ankh, although I have seen Christians use it as a stylised cross.

Thank you! That explains things.

Irene.

Most welcome dear lady :)

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mountain_man

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Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:15PM, mainecaptain wrote:
It looks like and Egyptian Ankh, although I have seen Christians use it as a stylised cross.

The ankh is the Egyptian symbol for the "key of life. " It's fitting to use the ankh as a replacement for a symbol of death - the cross.

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mainecaptain

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Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:27PM, mountain_man wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:15PM, mainecaptain wrote:
It looks like and Egyptian Ankh, although I have seen Christians use it as a stylised cross.

The ankh is the Egyptian symbol for the "key of life. " It's fitting to use the ankh as a replacement for a symbol of death - the cross.

Excellent point. I like that. Much better. :)

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mytmouse57

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Jun 12, 2012 -- 2:58PM, Tpaine wrote:

Jun 11, 2012 -- 10:30PM, mytmouse57 wrote:

A: We're splitting hairs. Gay people will continue to have, or adopt, children and raise them, regardless of what you, me or anybody thinks.

I've already told you, as a matter of specifics, as an alternative family structure, I have no beef with that.

B: Once more, citing soft-science "studies" done on sample populations does not impress me. It's a pretty steep call to suggest those four points either simply don't exist, or don't really matter.

In the absence of rational, reasoned arguments and long term, universal proof, simply citing the results of softball studies isn't going to convince many reasonable people of such a sweeping, radical claim.

Again, that strikes me as a quite naive appeal to dubious authority.

All you have to do to get me to agree with you is to present actual valid peer-reviewed studies that prove that what you call the "soft science" studies are wrong. Since when is pediatric medicine considered a "soft science?"

In other words, you're still willing to rest everything on faith in an appeal to authority.

Oh well, a point of disagreement. No big deal.

mountain_man

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Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:36PM, mytmouse57 wrote:
In other words, you're still willing to rest everything on faith in an appeal to authority.

Science is not an "appeal to authority." Science is about the truth, about facts, not authorities. If you don't like the facts, come up with some different ones and then support those with more facts. You've so far presented a lot of beliefs but not one fact. Since you have not presented any facts; the problem must lie elsewhere.

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Do_unto_others

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Let me add my thanks too Stardove. I'm from a Pentecostal background, so am kind of used to that style of preaching.

Glad to hear/read some new stuff that's actually on topic instead of all that stuff about inferior relationships and makin' babies.

REteach

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Was today the anniversary of Loving v Virginia? The characters change but the bigotry remains the same.

The evil expressed in the name of Christianity never ceases to amaze me. I'm glad there are some who are taking a stand against it.

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Thetwofish

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Me too...RE. And I would like to say that those (you know who you are) who are not EMOTIONAL about it...well, I just don't know what to say? This IS an emotional issue...leaving emotions out of it would be rather, well, stupid, IMHO. People are not robots...they have emotions...feel love...dissappointment...joy...sorrow...etc. And IT DOES NOT MATTER which side of the sexual attraction scale you fall...these are all EMOTIONS that we all FEEL...

And that's the EQUALITY that I have been trying to get a certain person to understand...but with no positive results, I'm afraid.

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