Jun 9, 2012 -- 5:23PM, mytmouse57 wrote:

Jun 9, 2012 -- 4:40PM, Tpaine wrote:

Your claims so far are based on opinion, yet you refuse to accept any evidence that runs contrary to your opinion. Show me a peer-reviewed study that contradicts this abstract and the report that6 accompanies it. Or are pediatricians also unqualified to express a valid position?

A growing body of scientific literature demonstrates that children who grow up with 1 or 2 gay and/or lesbian parents fare as well in emotional, cognitive, social, and sexual functioning as do children whose parents are heterosexual. Children’s optimal development seems to be influenced more by the nature of the relationships and interactions within the family unit than by the particular structural form it takes. Link

You're whistling past the graveyard here, IMO.

I said, yes, of course, gay parenting can work. So does step/adoptive parenting. (I'm both a step and adoptive parent. I have five children. One is biological.)

Good for you, Mouse. There are children out there that need parents like you so they can be part of a family. You gave four children other than your biological one a home they may not have had were it not for you.

Jun 9, 2012 -- 5:23PM, mytmouse57 wrote:

Cite all the studies you wish.

Denyting the reality of:

*The differences between men and women, as they compliment and relate to parenting.

*The importance of both a mother and father.

*The biological parent-child bond.

*The importance of an opposite-sex parent.

Is naive and stupid.

Furthermore, those exact fields of study you cite -- have studied and confiremed the reality and importance of all those things. If you don't belive me, look it up.

You make claims, but you don't supply the evidence to support it. Present the evidence. Knowledge increases as time passes. Some of the sources I have cited did have contrary views years ago but recent information has caused them to change their views. However, you have failed to provide any evidence that the article I linked above is wrong other than your opinion. I guess in your world any individual or organ that disagrees with you is naive and stupid.

Looking through PubMed:

Children of lesbian and gay parents: psychology, law, and policy.

Jun 9, 2012 -- 9:08PM, REteach wrote:

Looking through PubMed....

This is one of those discussions where the facts are irrelevant to one side. Some are simply unable, not unwilling but unable, to accept the facts. Sadly, your post, the very interesting article, and your efforts will be for naught.

There's more on the topic though:

Contrary to assertions from people opposed to same-sex parenting, we found that the 17-year-olds scored higher in psychological adjustment in areas of competency and lower in problem behaviors than the normative age-matched sample of kids raised in traditional families with a mom and a dad," says researcher Nanette Gartrell, MD, the Williams distinguished scholar at the University of California Los Angeles School of Law.

Source.

But, as I said, a certain group of people cannot accept scientific studies such as that one and the one you mentioned. It's not possible for them since it would create a disturbing dissonance that they are unable to deal with.

It was my pleasure...thought you might need it

Peace

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Jun 9, 2012 -- 9:05PM, Amycain wrote:

Thanks for the hug!!!  :)

Jun 9, 2012 -- 7:31PM, Thetwofish wrote:

Jun 9, 2012 -- 6:16PM, Amycain wrote:

Jun 8, 2012 -- 5:39PM, mytmouse57 wrote:
•Having both a mother and father doesn't really isn't important. (Please note... as I said above, those same fields have also produced volumes of research on related subjects, such as the vital importance a father plays in the healthy development of a girl, and her relationships with men later on.)

Really??!!! Unless he is a molesting perv or abusive or a male chavanist jackass, which some of those are excellent actors, take the man who brutally raped me when i was 24 he was a friendly neighbor I met around the neighborhood who after many street conversations invited me to have dinner with him & his wife, only when I got inside their house dsid I find out that his wife was out of town, his house looked like the cozy little homemaker home he was about 40 so they had been married a long time . . .family photos and doilies everywhere but he wouldn't let me leave dragged me up the stairs face first, apparently his happy little homemaker wife had no idea what a monster she was married to.

And I also know for a fact that my daughter is better off not knowing her jackass of a father(not the rapist that was years ago) he was an obnoxious, chip on his shoulder drunk .

However my daughter does have as a male role model a terrific wonderful grandfather, & with that she is lightyears better off than the jackass!!!

oh and by the way I grew up with a terrific Dad and I am a lesbian.  My daughter is a heterosexual (well she's going to be 12 next month but she has always liked only boys and she knows about my sexuality.)  I was always a lesbian I was drunk and suicidal the night I spent with her father I was afraid I would kill myself if I went home that night That's how I ended up with her father, also had only lived here a short time and hadn't found the places to meet other gay people yet, by the way I have been sober , it will be 8 years in august while I'm sure her father is either dead from something alcohol related or still an active drunk.

First, what a horrible thing to have endured.  Hugs.

And I would like to add that my father was an alcoholic, never kept a job and my mother divorced him when I was in second grade.  My mother raised me.  My father had no influence on my life except what not to be.  He wasn't a bad man...he just loved his liquor.  Died at 57.

I have no ill effects from not having my father in my life.  I am happy and healthy and have never dwelled on it or felt sorry for myself.

Peace

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Jun 9, 2012 -- 10:18PM, mountain_man wrote:

Jun 9, 2012 -- 9:08PM, REteach wrote:

Looking through PubMed....

This is one of those discussions where the facts are irrelevant to one side. Some are simply unable, not unwilling but unable, to accept the facts. Sadly, your post, the very interesting article, and your efforts will be for naught.

It's like debating fundamentalist Christians who insist that the earth is six thousand years old. They can't understand that the matter is settled and there is no longer a debate.