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2 years ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 10:02AM #1
Marcion
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To all you self-proclaimed photoanalysts who said the photos on such reliable sources as The National Enquirer showed no injury to Zimmerman.

abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medic...

Please let the professionals do their job. 
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2 years ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 10:50AM #2
teilhard
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The Night Stalker did NOT go The E.R. that Night, but went to his personal Physician the next Day to make sure he could return to Work ...


Autopsy Reports indicates Physical Trauma to the Dead Teenager's Body, indicating some Kind of Mutual Fight, which was (by Reports) STARTED by The Night Stalker, who was armed wth a 9mm Handgun, which he used to KILL Trayvon Martin ...

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2 years ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 12:20PM #3
Ebon
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It is now in the hands of legal authorities. Which is as it should be. Let's see what comes out at trial.

He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. ~ Proverbs 14:31

Fiat justitia, ruat caelum

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2 years ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 12:23PM #4
Fodaoson
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Sources: Medical report says Zimmerman had broken nose, other injuries after fight


   By Lateef Mungin, CNN updated 10:09 AM EDT, Wed May 16, 2012


 


A medical report by George Zimmerman's family doctor shows the neighborhood watch volunteer was diagnosed with a fractured nose, two black eyes and two lacerations on the back of the head after his fatal confrontation with Trayvon Martin.


The medical exam, which was taken a day after Zimmerman's February 26 altercation with the unarmed 17-year-old, says Zimmerman suffered a "closed fracture" of his nose, according to two sources who have detailed knowledge of the investigation.


Zimmerman, 28, is accused of killing Martin on February 26 as the African-American teenager walked back to the Sanford, Florida, house where he was staying, after visiting a convenience store. Prosecutors have said Zimmerman, who is a white Hispanic, killed Martin unjustly after profiling him.


Zimmerman, who acknowledges shooting Martin but claims self-defense, has entered a not guilty plea in the case, which has not yet been scheduled for trial.


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The medical report appears to lend support to Zimmerman's claims. It also mirrors earlier statements made by Zimmerman's father, brother and lawyer.


Zimmerman's brother spoke of the medical reports in a March interview with CNN's Piers Morgan.


"We're confident the medical records are going to explain all of George's medical history," Robert Zimmerman Jr. said at the time. "You return force with force when somebody assaults you. George was out of breath, he was barely conscious. George (would have been) dead if he had not acted decisively and instantaneously in that moment."


The Martin family has questions about the medical report, said Benjamin Crump, the family attorney.


"The family has very strong positions about this family physician's report that was done the next day," Crump said. "What we do know is on February 26, the ER personnel did not believe his injuries were significant enough for him to go to the hospital. They didn't even put a Band-Aid on his head. That's important."


Also Tuesday, CNN affiliate WFTV reported that Martin's autopsy showed the teen had injuries to his knuckles when he died.


That evidence could also support the theory that Martin and Zimmerman fought.


Crump also responded to that report Tuesday night.


"He was fighting for his life," he told Anderson Cooper. "Let's not forget that Trayvon Martin was fighting a man with a 9-millimeter gun. We also have to remember that he didn't start this fight. George Zimmerman got out his car and pursued Trayvon Martin."


On the night of the shooting, Zimmerman had called 911 to complain about a suspicious person in the neighborhood, according to authorities.


In the call, Zimmerman said he was following Martin after the teen started to run, prompting the dispatcher to tell him, "We don't need you to do that."


Zimmerman apparently disregarded that advice


 

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2 years ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 1:47PM #5
Marcion
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Obama is setting his federal dogs loose to charge Zimmerman with a hate crime. Is he that hard up for votes to grasp at straws.


Hate Crime, now there's a politically correct liberal zinger.


For instance if an individual has deep loathing for another person and kills him; he can not be charged with a "Hate Crime" because his victim was neither black nor gay. Forget that the motive for the crime was hatred.

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2 years ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 1:55PM #6
Nepenthe
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May 16, 2012 -- 12:23PM, Fodaoson wrote:

"He was fighting for his life," he told Anderson Cooper. "Let's not forget that Trayvon Martin was fighting a man with a 9-millimeter gun. We also have to remember that he didn't start this fight. George Zimmerman got out his car and pursued Trayvon Martin."



This is what I see the trial concerning itself with: Who started the fight? 


However, Zimmerman getting out of his car and pursuing does not equal starting a fight.  The trial will (hopefully) show us the evidence in whether Zimmerman confronted Martin and initiated the assualt of whether Martin followed Zimmerman back to his vehicle and assaulted from beind.


Having said that, I have to point out that this entire incident would have been avoided had Zimmerman not gotten out of his vehilce simply because Martin was a black kid wearing a hoodied.

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2 years ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 3:00PM #7
Yavanna
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May 16, 2012 -- 1:47PM, Marcion wrote:


Obama is setting his federal dogs loose to charge Zimmerman with a hate crime. Is he that hard up for votes to grasp at straws.


Hate Crime, now there's a politically correct liberal zinger.


For instance if an individual has deep loathing for another person and kills him; he can not be charged with a "Hate Crime" because his victim was neither black nor gay. Forget that the motive for the crime was hatred.




You do realize it's possible to commit a hate crime against a heterosexual caucasian right? Even one that's a Christian?

The dwarves of yore made mighty spells,
While hammers fell like ringing bells
In places deep, where dark things sleep,
In hollow halls beneath the fells.

For ancient king and elvish lord
There many a gloaming golden hoard
They shaped and wrought, and light they caught
To hide in gems on hilt of sword.
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2 years ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 3:07PM #8
teilhard
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Yes ... I expect that The Dead Kid's Girlfriend will testify about her Cell-Phone Conversation with Trayvon  just Moments before he was murdered -- how he expressed FEAR of the weird Stalker who was following him, and how she advised him to "RUN ... !!!"


May 16, 2012 -- 12:20PM, Ebon wrote:


It is now in the hands of legal authorities. Which is as it should be. Let's see what comes out at trial.





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2 years ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 3:12PM #9
teilhard
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In ANY Criminal Charge or Trial, the presumed or obvious or admitted MOTIVE of The Perpetrator is PROPERLY one of the Factors considered by The Prosecutor and The Courts ...


WHAT did The Perpetrator DO and WHY did (s)he DO it ... ???  


ALL of that is BASIC, isn't it ... ???


May 16, 2012 -- 1:47PM, Marcion wrote:


Obama is setting his federal dogs loose to charge Zimmerman with a hate crime. Is he that hard up for votes to grasp at straws.


Hate Crime, now there's a politically correct liberal zinger.


For instance if an individual has deep loathing for another person and kills him; he can not be charged with a "Hate Crime" because his victim was neither black nor gay. Forget that the motive for the crime was hatred.





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2 years ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 3:38PM #10
mytmouse57
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May 16, 2012 -- 12:20PM, Ebon wrote:


It is now in the hands of legal authorities. Which is as it should be. Let's see what comes out at trial.





Now, there's a novel idea. Wink

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