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2 years ago  ::  Jun 04, 2012 - 11:41AM #201
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Here is an interesting article on the effects of Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law from the Tampa Bay Times.

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 04, 2012 - 12:25PM #202
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Interesting article, it certainly shows that the law is so poorly written that it's far too open to subjective interpretation.  Things like "you can't shoot a fleeing man in the back and claim self-defense" should be obvious, but apparently not?

I'm glad that this case is bringing attention to the law, but I don't think the law applies here.  Regardless of how you wind up in that situation (unless you yourself were first a mortal threat to your assailant), when you're laying on the ground underneath someone who is beating you, you don't need a stand your ground law.  Stand your ground only waives your duty to retreat.  When retreat is physically impossible, stand your ground is not part of the equation, is it?

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2 years ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 10:44PM #203
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2 years ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 11:37PM #204
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Jun 26, 2012 -- 10:44PM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:

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