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2 years ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 5:08PM #1
Marcion
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What happened to innocent until proven guilty?


www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-poli...

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2 years ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 5:33PM #2
Cesmom
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It's been shown, in this case, and time and time again in other cases, that the Stand Your Ground law is a bad, bad idea that only leads to abuse.  I see no mob mentaility here.  I see a logical conclusion stemming from multiple tragedies.

Our need to learn should always outweigh our need to be right

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

More people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them.
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2 years ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 5:35PM #3
TemplarS
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May 8, 2012 -- 5:08PM, Marcion wrote:


What happened to innocent until proven guilty?




 


??????


The House action is directed against so-called stand your ground laws; not against Mr. Zimmerman.



Anyhow, it is nothing but political grandstanding, since it has about as much chance of passing the GOP/NRA controlled House as I have of being elected Pope.

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2 years ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 10:34PM #4
mountain_man
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May 8, 2012 -- 5:08PM, Marcion wrote:

What happened to innocent until proven guilty?


The article was about getting rid of some very bad laws. It's interesting that when it's something you agree with it's democracy, when it's something you disagree with it's "mob mentality." Can you explain the difference between democracy and mob rule?


Hint: there isn't any.

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 12:07PM #5
Marcion
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May 8, 2012 -- 5:35PM, TemplarS wrote:


May 8, 2012 -- 5:08PM, Marcion wrote:


What happened to innocent until proven guilty?




 


??????


The House action is directed against so-called stand your ground laws; not against Mr. Zimmerman.



Anyhow, it is nothing but political grandstanding, since it has about as much chance of passing the GOP/NRA controlled House as I have of being elected Pope.




Bullshit! The slimeball politicians are riding a wave of public opinion in order to garner votes. They could give less of a shit about Trayvon or Zimmerman.

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2 years ago  ::  May 09, 2012 - 12:21PM #6
TemplarS
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That is what slimeball politicians do.


But that is not to say that debate on the advisability of these laws is not warranted. 


And, to the point that civil debate in the current House is not possible, I lay that squarely at the feet of the majority.


Which is why this is, sadly, nothing but grandstanding by the minority.

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2 years ago  ::  May 10, 2012 - 9:26AM #7
Marcion
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Why call it the Trayvon ammendment when the issue at hand is self defense or stand your ground. There have been many other victims of stand your ground why not name it after them.


Senstaional journalism such as this article is one reason why Zimmerman can't get a fair trial. I trust his lawyer is making note of all the inflamatory journalism and talk show appearances.


The zealots may very well torpedo their own cause.

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2 years ago  ::  May 12, 2012 - 12:14AM #8
teilhard
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The Night Stalker will get a "Fair" Trial ...


But there is NO Guarantee that a Trial must be "Perfect" ...

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2 years ago  ::  May 12, 2012 - 9:07AM #9
Marcion
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Sensible heads pulled the so-called Trayvon ammendment.

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2 years ago  ::  May 19, 2012 - 12:08AM #10
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