May 3, 2012 -- 12:09PM, mytmouse57 wrote:

May 2, 2012 -- 9:40PM, mountain_man wrote:

Now that I think about it, yes, homophobia, racism, and christian extremism are often found in the same person. The disconcerting part is that they vote in a bloc and have more power than they deserve.

The most vehmently hateful people I've known haven't been particularly religious.

In fact, I think I've heard more than one of them say things such as "church is for pussies."

Calling someone a pussy is vehemently hateful? What kind of lollipop land do you come from?

Religious people seek to deny homosexuals the right to enter into the legal contract of marriage, which turns them into second class citizens and you complain about churchgoers being called pussies? I don't know a lot of gay people, but every one that I do know has a story to tell about the treatment that they have received for being gay. I know one guy who went to prom with another guy and nearly got beaten to death for it. His boyfriend didn't survive. Now that's what I call hateful.

May 6, 2012 -- 5:19PM, mountain_man wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 4:27PM, mytmouse57 wrote:

.... You type-cast, and you judge.

Which is exactly what your whole post was, type casting and judging. That's irrational. Why do you whine about something you do yourself?

This entire thread is really nothing more than an opportunity to, once again, take swipes at the prepetual boogiemen of these boards -- Christians and political conservatives. 

You make broad judements about those groups all the time, as do many posters here. It's pathetic, and I'm really done with the games. 

May 7, 2012 -- 12:37AM, Habala?! wrote:

May 3, 2012 -- 12:09PM, mytmouse57 wrote:

May 2, 2012 -- 9:40PM, mountain_man wrote:

Now that I think about it, yes, homophobia, racism, and christian extremism are often found in the same person. The disconcerting part is that they vote in a bloc and have more power than they deserve.

The most vehmently hateful people I've known haven't been particularly religious.

In fact, I think I've heard more than one of them say things such as "church is for pussies."

Calling someone a pussy is vehemently hateful? What kind of lollipop land do you come from?

Religious people seek to deny homosexuals the right to enter into the legal contract of marriage, which turns them into second class citizens and you complain about churchgoers being called pussies? I don't know a lot of gay people, but every one that I do know has a story to tell about the treatment that they have received for being gay. I know one guy who went to prom with another guy and nearly got beaten to death for it. His boyfriend didn't survive. Now that's what I call hateful.

Maybe you misunderstood -- I'm willing to give you the benifit of the doubt.

I said vehmently hateful people -- as being hateful toward gays, racial minorities, just about anybody and everybody. I said I've met examples of such people who were not particularly religious, and were just as quick to slam church-goers as they were anybody else.

That's terrible about the beating. Any human being with a heart should be revolted by such stories. 

However, as I pointed out to Mountain Man, It gets old when certain other groups  (most notably, Christians and political conservatives) get continually blamed for all the world's problems. 

Yes, I know/have known a fair number of gay and lesbian people. Never had a problem with any of them.

I've also know many Christians/political consevatives. And while some of them might not agree with every point of the gay rights platform, they most certianly are not the type to hate anybody, or be racist, or condone in any way, shape or form a person getting the crap kicked out of them simply for being gay.

So, my point is, it get tiresome for some people to say they oppose negative stereotypes (which any reasonable person should) and then turn around in wallow in negative stereotypes, just because somebody does not agree with them. It's hypocritcal, and it does nothing for society, other than continue to aggravate divisions and rancor. 

Gay marriage in this country is a political issue now. As such, I'd rather leave that one alone. The courts will probably have to eventually decide it anyway. It's not the sort of thing that should go up for a popular vote, IMO. .

May 7, 2012 -- 10:06AM, mytmouse57 wrote:

...However, as I pointed out to Mountain Man, It gets old when certain other groups  (most notably, Christians and political conservatives) get continually blamed for all the world's problems.

That's a pretty broad judgement on what others have not actually said.

May 7, 2012 -- 9:57AM, mytmouse57 wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 5:19PM, mountain_man wrote:

May 6, 2012 -- 4:27PM, mytmouse57 wrote:

.... You type-cast, and you judge.

Which is exactly what your whole post was, type casting and judging. That's irrational. Why do you whine about something you do yourself?

This entire thread is really nothing more than an opportunity to, once again, take swipes at the prepetual boogiemen of these boards -- Christians and political conservatives. 

You make broad judements about those groups all the time, as do many posters here. It's pathetic, and I'm really done with the games. 

No. This "entire thread" was meant for comment on the people in the OP, on their thoughts and their observable actions.