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2 years ago  ::  Apr 30, 2012 - 10:15PM #1
Ironhold
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A senior EPA official has resigned after video surfaced in which he seemingly confessed to deliberately making examples out of companies in order to terrify entire industries.

Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) has already pounced on the video, proclaiming it to be "proof" that the EPA is a group of bullies rather than a government oversight organization.

Anyone else wondering how many more skeletons are going to emerge from different federal closets in the lead-up to Election Day?
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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 12:05AM #2
mountain_man
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Apr 30, 2012 -- 10:15PM, Ironhold wrote:

...Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) has already pounced on the video, proclaiming it to be "proof" that the EPA is a group of bullies rather than a government oversight organization.


Well... DUH! What would you expect a Regressive to say? They believe that not being able to poison our planet is an undue burden on business.


Anyone else wondering how many more skeletons are going to emerge from different federal closets in the lead-up to Election Day?


As many as the Regressives can make up.


As for Inhofe; the guy is a nutcase... or getting rich from the companies that reward him handsomely for lying about climate change. No one takes the guy seriously.

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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 12:59AM #3
MysticWanderer
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An interesting and revealing quote from the article has Mr. Amanderez (the "senior EPA official" in question) saying, "He added that the EPA, similarly, makes "examples out of people who are not complying with the law ... you make examples out of them, use it as a deterrent method."


IN other words innocent companies are not being targeted but companies that violated the laws are being made examples of.  Gee, I thought that was what punishments were supposed to do to deter crime.

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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 9:10AM #4
TemplarS
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The problem was not in the point Mr. Armendariz was making; it was in the language he used to make the point.  These guys should know better, or be forced to take a course in sensitivity in public relations.

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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 11:33AM #5
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Mr. Inhofe is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

“I seldom make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.” Edward Gibbon
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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 12:50PM #6
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Inhofe picks and chooses the "evidence" according to a rather select criteria, such as ignoring scientific evidence while claiming he believes only in "sound science".  IOW, non-partisan he is not.


Let me also mention that the previous administration had more people involved in established illegal activities than any other over the last 100 years.  And does anyone here actually believe that Scooter Libby acted on his own without Cheney's knowledge dealing with the Valerie Plame incident?  And Cheney refused to testify to a grand jury dealing with that as well, plus he also refused to disclose what he told the oil companies in a private meeting sometime prior to the BP spill.


OTOH, I certainly am not saying we should ignore alleged scandals.


 

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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 12:53PM #7
Ironhold
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May 1, 2012 -- 9:10AM, TemplarS wrote:


The problem was not in the point Mr. Armendariz was making; it was in the language he used to make the point.  These guys should know better, or be forced to take a course in sensitivity in public relations.




That would be to admit that Big Business has the right idea, though.


I doubt too many government types would appreciate that particular implication.

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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 2:01PM #8
MysticWanderer
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May 1, 2012 -- 12:53PM, Ironhold wrote:


May 1, 2012 -- 9:10AM, TemplarS wrote:


The problem was not in the point Mr. Armendariz was making; it was in the language he used to make the point.  These guys should know better, or be forced to take a course in sensitivity in public relations.




That would be to admit that Big Business has the right idea, though.


I doubt too many government types would appreciate that particular implication.




?????


What right idea?   Sensitivity training?  Political correctness?  I've seen more than one CEO make an ass of himself in public before.  Do you mean that companies that break the law should be prosecuted more gently than the average street thug?  Why?  They often hurt many more than any kid with a saturday night special looking for money for drugs.

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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 9:55PM #9
mountain_man
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May 1, 2012 -- 11:33AM, Fodaoson wrote:

Mr. Inhofe is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.


He fell out of the chandelier long ago. It was funny when he set up a table/booth/whatever at the last Climate Change Conference. Everyone ignored him, laughed at him, and the press ridiculed him. His campaign donors:


Koch Industries $44,600


Murray Energy $31,100


Devon Energy $28,000


Contran Corp $21,500


Robison International $21,300


That's 3 energy companies and 2 Wall Street lobbying firms. They make good use of their little ventriloquist dummy.

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2 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 9:57PM #10
mountain_man
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May 1, 2012 -- 12:53PM, Ironhold wrote:

That would be to admit that Big Business has the right idea, though.


The ONLY idea that Big Business has is to make more profits. They don't care if they ruin the economy to do so.


I doubt too many government types would appreciate that particular implication.


They've been bought off by Big Business.

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