Truechristian, you are a hard case.  As Paul said to the Corinthians, may the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you.  Seriously.  You could use another healthy dose of all three.

May 31, 2012 -- 8:27PM, smcisaac wrote:

Truechristian, you are a hard case.  As Paul said to the Corinthians, may the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you.  Seriously.  You could use another healthy dose of all three.

smcisaac

Thank you for your opinion on what you think. 

It is my love for God AND for me fellow Christians that I post as I do. 

It appears to me that those who "assume" that Pastor Terry's burning of the Quran, is due to his desire to be a "superstar", or that he is not or should not be called a "pastor"  or who "assume" that he is the "anti-christ" need the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit alot more than I do. 

I understand that neither you nor most other Christians, wether clergy or lay would not burn a Quran. However I also understand the reason that Pastor Terry  gave for burning the Quran. Ineffectual as it appears to be and I repeat, so far as I know, there have not been any deaths that have resulted from this ineffectual  act of protest. 

 What is "sacred" is what the Quran says and NOT THE PAPER AND INK. 

Jun 8, 2012 -- 4:26PM, TRUECHRISTIAN wrote:

It is my love for God AND for me fellow Christians that I post as I do.

Jun 8, 2012 -- 5:28PM, smcisaac wrote:

If that were true as true as you would like to believe, your words would express love and compassion, not only toward God and your fellow Christians, but even toward those who were very different from you, even toward the prodigal sons and the Samaritan women of our time.  Instead, your words drip with contempt, and you applaud the contemptuous bigotry of others. 

Unlike your words towards about the "anti-christ"-prodigal Pastor Terry which drip with love and compassion are completely free of contempt? 

Jun 8, 2012 -- 5:28PM, smcisaac wrote:

You and I may not hold the Qur'an to be sacred as Islam does, but burning something that is cherished by others merely to display your contempt for them is an expression of hate, not love.  And make no mistake, Jones is achieving nothing else except giving voice to his hatred.

I will repeat as many times as neccessary that it is the words in the Quran that Muslims hold sacred and not the ink and paper.  

I will repeat again my "contempt"  my "opposition" is not directed towards Muslims it is directed towards what those few cruel  Muslims persecutors  Iran have done in this case. 

Jun 8, 2012 -- 5:28PM, smcisaac wrote:

 He is deliberately offending, not only a few cruel persecutors of Christians, but also  hundreds of millions of other people who have done nothing wrong.

He is no more delibrately offending the 1.5 billion Muslims on the planet than the few cruel misguided Muslims in Iran are delibrately trying to offend the 2.2 billion Christians on the planet.

Personally I think burning a Quran is much less offensive than  sentencing a man to death for the crime.

Jun 8, 2012 -- 5:28PM, smcisaac wrote:

If and to the extent that there really are Christians being persecuted or killed by some Muslims somewhere in the world because of Muslim misunderstanding of Christianity,

If ? I think there is very, very,very, very little doubt that there are some Christians being killed by some Muslims. 

If Pastor Terry burned a Quran it is because of his "misunderstanding" of Christianity.  Which everybody(?) knows is the most tolerant and peaceful of all the Abrahamic religions.   

Or

If Pastor Terry burned a Quran it is because of his "misunderstanding" of Islam. 

To what extent and as to why some Muslims are killing some Christians but I have my doubts that the reason is because of a "misunderstanding" of Christianity.   What all Muslims understand is the Jesus was not, nor is not God.  What all Muslims do understand is the the gravest, the worst sin that a human being can commit is to ascribe "partners to God". 

Jun 8, 2012 -- 5:28PM, smcisaac wrote:

 burning the Qur'an does nothing to improve the lot of their Christian victims, but it most certainly exacerbates the persecutors' hostility to Christianity, and it also sows ill will toward Christianity among countless other Muslims who had no previous reason to resent us. 

I do agree that the burning of A Quran or Qurans,  will do nothing to improve the lot of the Christian victims of Muslims who misunderstand Christianity. IF there are some Christian victims who persecuted and killed by some Muslims and if it is because they "misunderstand" Christianity. 

I agree that the burning of a Quran, or to be more precise an English translation of THE Quran would sow hostility in some Muslims just as the persecution and killing of some Christians will and has sown resentment and hositlity in some Christians towards some or even all Muslims.

As I stated earlier I don't see any evidence that burning of a Quran has had any effect one those Muslims in Iran who are involved in the persecution of Christian pastor in Iran.  And so far as I know it has not caused any further persecution of Christians either in Iran or anywhere else. 

Jun 8, 2012 -- 5:28PM, smcisaac wrote:

 If your hope is that at least some of those Muslims might eventually convert to Christianity, or that other Christians will complete the work of the persecuted Christians who were frustrated by hostility from a few misguided Muslims in their efforts to witness the Good News of God's unconditional love and redemption for all people, then insulting the objects of your hope, rather than modeling God's some love toward them in your own words and deeds, is a recipe for certain failure.

If you cannot see that, then you are blinded by hate for your brother, not inspired by love of God.  As both Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. are reputed to have said, "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."

I would hope that some of my Muslim brothers become my Christian brothers because if they do not then they will not be "redeemed".

What you are blind to is my repeated posts that I do not have hatred for my Muslim brothers.   What I do have hatred for is the actions of some of my Muslim brothers who are involved in the persecution of my Christian brothers. 

The "eye for an eye" does NOT APPLY IN THIS INSTANCE! 

I am not advocting that a Muslim be convicted for the "crime-sin" of being a Muslim and for trying to "convert-revert"  Christitians to Islam. 

I would also add that it is a "misunderstanding" of the "eye for an eye" to be taken "literally".

Apr 30, 2012 -- 10:40AM, mytmouse57 wrote:

I support free expression.

I support any person's right to publicly make an idiot of themselves. 

I would, however, love to see the look on Pastor Terry's face when his time comes to cross over, and Jesus introduces him to his good friend, Muhammed. 

Muhammed and his followers are the 7th head of the beast.
May God bless pastor Jones who is protesting Iran's arrest of a Christian pastor there. 

Muslims are also killing Christians in Nigeria (committing religious genocide), yet no one does anthing or even reports it.