US Pastor Terry Jones Burns Qur'an Again

solfeggio

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Here's the Terry Jones I know about and love:

www.imdb.com/name/nm0001402/

mainecaptain

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Apr 30, 2012 -- 7:38PM, solfeggio wrote:

Here's the Terry Jones I know about and love:

www.imdb.com/name/nm0001402/

Oh Solf. LOL.

Yes your Terry Jones should be the only one we pay attention too.

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IDBC

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Howdy

"On October 1, 2011 the Iran state media reported that Nadarkhani is facing the death sentence for rape and extortion, not for apostasy and refusing to renounce his religion, as his lawyer, human rights groups and Western news media have reported. They also reported that they had not signed his execution order. Nadarkhani's lawyer said that he believed that Nadarkhani would not be executed."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youcef_Nadarkhani

In a society that values free speech that speech should not be suprressed because some punk assed savages don't know how to behave like decent human beings and might take a himan life because paper and ink were burned. If the low life scum don't like it TOUGH SHIT! Let them burn a copy of the flag, or the bible or the U.S. Constitution.

Moderated by Merope on May 18, 2012 - 01:07PM

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TemplarS

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IDBC, we all know about the excesses and defiiciencies of the "justice" system in Iran.

But what does burning a Koran have to do with that?

MMarcoe

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Dude, he has a Koran!

There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth.

God is just a personification of reality, of pure objectivity.

IDBC

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Howdy Templar

May 1, 2012 -- 9:27AM, TemplarS wrote:

IDBC, we all know about the excesses and defiiciencies of the "justice" system in Iran.

But what does burning a Koran have to do with that?

Pastor Terry is burning the Quran for pretty much the same reason why an anti-american would burn an american flag.

Moderated by Merope on May 18, 2012 - 01:09PM

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BDboy

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Apr 30, 2012 -- 11:12AM, TemplarS wrote:

Apr 30, 2012 -- 10:50AM, mytmouse57 wrote:

Apr 30, 2012 -- 10:42AM, mountain_man wrote:

As long as those Korans are his, he can burn them. It's a stupid thing to do, but we don't have laws against stupidity. If Muslims would stop it with the feigned indignation Jones would stop acting out in public.

It's kind of like flag burning; it only gets a bunch of extremists upset, no one else cares.

I agree on that point. As long as an item is your personal property -- be it a flag, Bible, Koran, statue of Elvis -- whatever, you should be free to do with your property as you see fit.

I agree with these statements.

I would only add: if this is simply the private act of one of the 300+ million citizens of the US- why is it news? Is not the press equally responsible for lending credence to this clown?

Yeah why is this clown making a headline?

We all agree on free speech. Some people say this is not exactly free speech but "Hate speech".

If this guy has an issue with Iran, burn an Iranian flag. The Qur'an is a different thing, it impacts around 1.7 billion people all over the world. Albeit most Muslims do not care but some of them consider this as an insult to a global faith and in these tense time, we can use less confronttations and more cooperation.

Pastor Jones do not even have a large following. To me he is a "Desperate Pastor" from Florida who is willing to do anything (Including adding risk to US servicemens lives all over the world) to get his "Fifteen minutes".

My two cents...

Moderated by Merope on May 18, 2012 - 01:10PM

IDBC

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Apr 30, 2012 -- 11:12AM, TemplarS wrote:

Apr 30, 2012 -- 10:50AM, mytmouse57 wrote:

Howdy BDboy

May 2, 2012 -- 11:04AM, BDboy wrote:

>>>>> Yeah why is this clown making a headline?

We all agree on free speech. Some people say this is not exactly free speech but "Hate speech".

Well those "some people"   are fuching assholes.   And in the United States, burning the Quran, or the Bible, or the American Flag, is "hate speech" that is protected "free speech".

"Some people" have no problem using what "other people" would say is not exactly free speech but hate speech.

But when the "other people" do it back to "some people" well that is a different story.

"Some people" have no problem villifying, insulting, politicans and or political parties, that is ok, that is free speech,   but to villify, insult, a Profit, or a religion, especially __________ .   Well that's different.

May 2, 2012 -- 11:04AM, BDboy wrote:


If this guy has an issue with Iran, burn an Iranian flag. The Qur'an is a different thing, it impacts around 1.7 billion people all over the world.

Do you really think the protest would be news if Pastor Terry burned an Iranian flag?   Pastor Terry's issue is that a Christian was tried and convicted by an Islamic Justice System because he was a Chrisitan.

Are you really serious in claiming that by burning a translation of the Quran that it is going to "impact" AROUND 1.7 BILLION MUSLIMS ALL OVER THE WORLD?

May 2, 2012 -- 11:04AM, BDboy wrote:

Albeit most Muslims do not care but some of them consider this as an insult to a global faith and in these tense time, we can use less confronttations and more cooperation.

Albeit only a "tiny minority" of the 1.7 billion Muslims will be "impacted".

Because only a "tiny minority" of Muslims worldwide would consider the burning of the Quran to be an insult, free speech-hate speech-thought crimes should be repressed.

May 2, 2012 -- 11:04AM, BDboy wrote:

Pastor Jones do not even have a large following. To me he is a "Desperate Pastor" from Florida who is willing to do anything (Including adding risk to US servicemens lives all over the world) to get his "Fifteen minutes".

I agree. If U.S. Servicemens or even civilians die Pastor Terry deserves at least some of the blame.

And if the reverse happens. If some Muslim Mullah says something that hurts an American's feeling or they find it insulting, if a Christians gets impacted because of a perceived insult to the Bible and went and burned down a mosque or killed muslims you would be just as understanding.

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mountain_man

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May 2, 2012 -- 11:04AM, BDboy wrote:
....Pastor Jones do not even have a large following. To me he is a "Desperate Pastor" from Florida who is willing to do anything (Including adding risk to US servicemens lives all over the world) to get his "Fifteen minutes".

Which is a good reason to ignore him. He cannot insult anyone. Burning a Koran doesn't insult anyone. They make themselves upset over it. They need to learn not to let other people control their emotions. The guy is a nutcase. Ignore him.

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CharikIeia

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This is a more general problem of the internet. Nowadays, any moron can find a worldwide audience, it doesn't need much. And anyone who gets a kick out of indignation can harvest many year's worth in a few hours of surfing the internet.

We need to get used to it.

One or two more generations, and everyone will have grown up with this technology, be used to its peculiarities, and the problem that the Terry Joneses of this planet pose today will have vanished.

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