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3 years ago  ::  May 01, 2012 - 8:44PM #61
teilhard
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President O'Bama is acting on what he IS, i.e., The President of The United States and Commander in Chief of The Armed Forces ...


May 1, 2012 -- 7:14PM, catboxer wrote:


Even as we speak, the preznit is in K'bool, where he was flown on a secret mission, except now it's not.


Apparently he's going to double down yet again on Afghanistan, and try to get Hamid the K to sign a pact that would extend American involvement "into the next decade" according to the story at Huffington Post.


Live televised speech from Bagram at 7:30 eastern -- that's about 18 minutes from now.


This guy is totally unrestrained in the Middle East, and is trying to act like Dirty Harry or something. The only way out of this Afghanistan clusterschnazzle now is for Congress to withhold the money, but I'm not holding my breath.





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3 years ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 11:08AM #62
Nepenthe
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Greenwald highlighting (yet again) the incredible lack of integrity in the national journalistic field:


NBC News’ top hagiographer



In essence, the entire show was devoted to uncritical veneration of our national political and military leaders. It was as vapid as it was propagandistic; as Josh Gerstein wrote: “Much of the program was devoted to the thoughts and feelings of the senior officials involved and to such details as Biden clutching his Rosary ring as the raid unfolded and the sourcing of the food consumed by officials on that fateful day.” We got to hear about how the President’s daughters reacted upon hearing of bin Laden’s death, and how very difficult it was for him to attend the White House Correspondents’ dinner that evening. The coolness of American military gadgetry was constantly on display (the SitRoom has multiple digital clocks for different time zones, one of which always shows the time where the President is located, as well as some really big and flat TV screens!).



There was no dissent, no critical scrutiny of claims, no raising of difficult questions, no facts revealed. It was all reverent praise and uncritical amplification. In sum, it was consummate American establishment journalism. Even if you’re someone who entirely approves of the raid and sees it as a rare American success over the last decade, uncritically bostering feel-good triumphalism about American political and military leaders is not the role of journalism (in theory, that is), and nobody should want it to perform that function.


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3 years ago  ::  May 03, 2012 - 2:30PM #63
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May 3, 2012 -- 11:08AM, Nepenthe wrote:


Greenwald highlighting (yet again) the incredible lack of integrity in the national journalistic field:


NBC News’ top hagiographer



In essence, the entire show was devoted to uncritical veneration of our national political and military leaders. It was as vapid as it was propagandistic; as Josh Gerstein wrote: “Much of the program was devoted to the thoughts and feelings of the senior officials involved and to such details as Biden clutching his Rosary ring as the raid unfolded and the sourcing of the food consumed by officials on that fateful day.” We got to hear about how the President’s daughters reacted upon hearing of bin Laden’s death, and how very difficult it was for him to attend the White House Correspondents’ dinner that evening. The coolness of American military gadgetry was constantly on display (the SitRoom has multiple digital clocks for different time zones, one of which always shows the time where the President is located, as well as some really big and flat TV screens!).



There was no dissent, no critical scrutiny of claims, no raising of difficult questions, no facts revealed. It was all reverent praise and uncritical amplification. In sum, it was consummate American establishment journalism. Even if you’re someone who entirely approves of the raid and sees it as a rare American success over the last decade, uncritically bostering feel-good triumphalism about American political and military leaders is not the role of journalism (in theory, that is), and nobody should want it to perform that function.





Yes, it is completely shallow.   I sometimes wonder how many times they had to pose that picture before they got it just right.  Obama is a product of his generation....perfect for abbreviated messaging characteristic of "texting", perfect for the superior "retinal display" of the I-PAD, and perfect for the silliness of Face Book pix (here's me and Joe watching a version of the show "24" in the WH).   The news readers are perfect for Hollywood's red carpet.


Sadly, we can't go back.

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3 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 1:45PM #64
Nepenthe
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So, Greenwald has pretty much owned this week with his articles concerning the current state of our ruling class.  Here, he describes that complete lack of justice within the federal judiciary.  However, as we all know by discussions on this board, this cannot possibly be the case since 'justice' has certainly and obviously been one of the main points to our decades long conflict. 


Concerning the recent John Yoo ruling:


More federal judge abdication




In sum, this yet again underscores that of all the American institutions that have so profoundly failed in the wake of 9/11 to protect the most basic liberties — Congress, both political parties, the establishment media, the Executive Branch, the DOJ specifically — none has been quite as disgraceful as the federal judiciary, whose life tenure is supposed to insulate them from base political pressures that produce cowardly and corrupted choices. And yet, just consider these two facts:



(1) not a single War on Terror victim — not one — has been permitted to sue for damages in an American court over what was done to them, even when everyone admits there were completely innocent, even when they were subjected to the most brutal torture, and even when the judiciary of most other countries permitted their lawsuits to proceed; and,


(2) not a single government official — not one — has been held legally accountable, either criminally or even civilly, for any War on Terror crimes or abuses; perversely, the only government officials to pay any price were the ones who blew the whistle on those crimes.



That is how history will record the behavior of American federal judges in the face of the post-9/11 onslaught of anti-Muslim persecution and relentless erosions of core rights.



But yeah, sure, continue to argue that our actions over the past decade somehow relate to the concept of 'justice'.

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3 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 4:17PM #65
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I'm just glad that McCain finally told someone (apparently Obama) how to get the guy...because according to McCain, he always knew how...apparently McCain just never let Bush or the other Republicans in on it. ;)

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3 years ago  ::  May 04, 2012 - 4:26PM #66
teilhard
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Maybe McCain's Lips were "SEAL-ed" ...


May 4, 2012 -- 4:17PM, Druac wrote:


I'm just glad that McCain finally told someone (apparently Obama) how to get the guy...because according to McCain, he always knew how...apparently McCain just never let Bush or the other Republicans in on it. ;)





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3 years ago  ::  May 08, 2012 - 12:48PM #67
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Concerning the supposed plot to bomb an American Airline, Greenwald gives us more informatin about the National Press' unquestionable loyalty to President Obama and the executive branch:


US attack kills 5 Afghan kids


Indeed, on the very same day that CNN and the other cable news networks devoted so much coverage to a failed, un-serious attempt to bring violence to the U.S. — one that never moved beyond the early planning stages and “never posed a threat to public safety” — it was revealed that the U.S. just killed multiple civilians, including a family of 5 children, in Afghanistan. But that got no mention. That event simply does not exist in the world of CNN and its viewers (I’d be shocked if it has been mentioned on MSNBC or Fox either). Nascent, failed non-threats directed at the U.S. merit all-hands-on-deck, five-alarm media coverage, but the actual extinguishing of the lives of children by the U.S. is steadfastly ignored (even though the latter is so causally related to the former).



Greenwald also mentions that which must not be mentioned: that people having bombs dropped on them don't like having bombs dropped:


(3) If one of the relatives of the children just killed in Afghanistan decided to attack the U.S. — or if one of the people involved in this Yemen-originating plot were a relative of one of the dozens of civilians killed by Obama’s 2009 cluster bomb strike — what would they be called by the U.S. media? Terrorists. Primitive, irrational, religious fanatics beyond human decency.


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