I am completely overwhelemed by her position. Saddened that although I wanted to donate to her cause yesterday, something prevented me from doing so? Maybe I needed to air my feelings here, so that  I can go back and donate something to help her.  She needs help, those children need help, and to judge her, least we be judged, helps no one.  Thanks for the post.

 PS, as far as her being held in high esteem, I really dont think thats something she deserves, or needs. She wasnt counseled properly by the (doctor) who should have refused her treatment, rather than satisfy her irrational need. That said, I still feel she needs compassion more than our judgement. Thanks for this post, I can only pray, she gets the support of God, whose spiritual help, is really needed, and will be needed for as long as she has those children.   

No doubt Ms. Suleman is overwhelmed. I gather that she does not have a bevy of volunteer assistance – for myriad of reasons.  There are those who might try to capitalize on her situation, but I gather she dismissed volunteers she believed were taking unfair advantage.  Was that legit or her ego/paranoia at play here? Can’t say. But it does leave the kids with an extremely overworked mother. Not good.

I think Ms. Suleman is a very selfish person.  I understand her belief that destroying her embryos, instead of implanting them, is destruction of a soul.  But, the kids --from those embryos-- suffer when she hasn’t the funds to properly house, feed, clothe, etc., these kids.  I wish she would take full advantage of any assistance she’s entitled to (the hell with her ego!). Not because I approve of her situation, but because in the end, the kids suffer the most.  And it won’t get easier as time goes on.  Hope that TV show she’s on will bring her all the needed funds to properly raise her brood.

She could have some of the kids adopted out – with an open adoption where the kids are kept in regular contact with their birth mother and siblings.  This is the case with a friend of mine whose daughter is in very regular contact with her brother who was adopted by a different family. Their mother had the option of regular visitation, but opted not to exercise this.

Irene.

I confess that, although the title of the thread piqued my interest which is why I took a look, I never heard of this Suleman woman or this Dr. Drew TV programme before reading it here.

But, after Googling some information, I agree with Irene that this woman is selfish beyond belief.  She was already a single mum who had six kids but she decided she wanted more?  Is she crazy?

I thought there were rules about giving in vitro to people who already had kids.  And doesn't in vitro cost between $10,000 and $15,000?  How on earth did she get the money to pay for it?

Apr 27, 2012 -- 5:58PM, christine3 wrote:

Apr 27, 2012 -- 4:18PM, Girlchristian wrote:

$35 if you go to a salon...between $7 (kids) and $12 (adult) if you go to someplace like Great Clips. I've been broke and I sure as heck wasn't spending $35/haircut while asking others to help me..

If she were paying her own way and taking care of her children on her own, I'd have no issue with it, but the fact that she CHOSE to have more kids (not just get pregnant, but actively pay to go through invitro) when she was already unemployed and not able to support the six she had is not something that should be applauded.

I live in California.  As far as I know, a salon is where people get hair cuts, not barbershops like when I was a little girl.  Okay, I went online and priced.  A hair cut with a coupon $15.  The outer limits range is $300-500 !! Who could afford that!?!  Well, where I live a hair cut for long hair is $45, $25 for short.  Your price is $7 and $12 for cuts?  What state are you in? I want to move there.

Personally, I pay more than $35 for a haircut, but that's because I go to a salon. Places like great clips, sport clips, and such are low price haircut places that aren't quite barbershops and women and children can use. They range in the $7 and $12 range. For instance, my husband uses them and he pays $11 for a haircut; whereas if he went to my salon he'd pay $35 (he's far too cheap to ever spend that much on a haircut )

How can she "pay their own way" while having 14 kids? I don't know the circumstances.  She was married.  Then she wasn't married.  There goes the income.  She shouldn't have had in vitro.  She admitted to a hoarding problem from early childhood...that may be part of it.

No, she shouldn't have had it and she shouldn't have had it while unemployed and already unable to take care of the children she had. I'm sorry, that decision is not to be applauded in any way and her kids will suffer for it.

There was a lady I knew who had a similar problem...she loved babies.  She kept getting pregnant for that reason.  On the other hand, she was a wonderful mother and person.  I don't think that many children is wise in this day and age.  I'm at the point for hoping she makes it.  

As long as someone can afford to pay for them then I say go for it, have as many as you want, but when you can only provide for them by relying on donations from others and gov't help then you shouldn't be having kids.

Apr 27, 2012 -- 6:46PM, Girlchristian wrote:

Apr 27, 2012 -- 6:01PM, solfeggio wrote:

I confess that, although the title of the thread piqued my interest which is why I took a look, I never heard of this Suleman woman or this Dr. Drew TV programme before reading it here.

But, after Googling some information, I agree with Irene that this woman is selfish beyond belief.  She was already a single mum who had six kids but she decided she wanted more?  Is she crazy?

I thought there were rules about giving in vitro to people who already had kids.  And doesn't in vitro cost between $10,000 and $15,000?  How on earth did she get the money to pay for it?

 

Here is how she says she paid for the in vitro, but the story doesn't really make sense:

voices.yahoo.com/octomom-nadya-suleman-s...

She paid for the first four by working long hours and saving money. She then paid for the next two by using part of an inheritance (money she should have kept to help pay for the first four, IMO). She won't say how much the procedure cost for the 8 and how she got that money.

I thought some of the iVF money was from a disability settlement from an on the job injury.

But ya know,  prudent folks who wish to be parents perform some measure of financial planning ("How are we/will I pay for a child?").  I remember some of the first interviews after the birth of the 8. She was babbling on about going back to school to get her degree -while taking care of all 14- and then she'd make enough money to afford all 14. Hello, these are babies - not dolls.

Later interviews she wised up- some.

Irene.