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3 years ago  ::  Apr 28, 2012 - 1:06PM #11
teilhard
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Nuclear Power Plant Accidents are  VERY  RARE ...


Apr 28, 2012 -- 10:35AM, christzen wrote:


Apr 28, 2012 -- 1:34AM, solfeggio wrote:


Sweeping generalities about the dangers we all face just going about our lives have nothing to do with the very real dangers posed by nuclear power.


www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/campaigns/nucl...


www.ehow.com/about_4759852_dangers-nucle...


Nuclear power is not the answer to the world's energy needs.


Clean, green sustainable, renewable sources of energy are the answer.


 




 


Let's see.Nuclear is too dangerous,even though the French happily toodle along making so much of their electricity from it they sometimes have to shut down on weekends because they can make more than they use.Good news for them when the fringe Germans scare their country away from nuclear,they can just starting exporting power to Germany and the rest of Europe that runs scared.The French can become the major power player of western Europe by becoming the main supplier of it's electricity.Piss off the French,sit in the dark!.Hydrocarbons pollute and cause global warmng.Hydroelectric ruins rivers and nature.Wind turbines kill migratory birds.Any ocean tide based technology will be found to have killed fish,along with more lovable sea life like dolphins and seals.That leaves us powering the world with solar.


 


Good luck with that.


 


The future SHOULD be nuclear fusion,but when the alarmists scare the world away from nuclear fission,the advancement to fusion will die as well,and we'll all learn to get by in a world in which only rich people who can afford massive solar arrays have electricity.


When it's not cloudy.





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3 years ago  ::  Apr 29, 2012 - 11:32AM #12
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Let's see.Nuclear is too dangerous,even though the French happily toodle along making so much of their electricity from it they sometimes have to shut down on weekends because they can make more than they use.


Chernobyl and Fukushima were happily toodling along too, until they didn't.  And when they didn't, the damage they caused was far greater  than the  damage done by all the other ways   in years.


Good news for them when the fringe Germans scare their country away from nuclear,they can just starting exporting power to Germany and the rest of Europe that runs scared.The French can become the major power player of western Europe by becoming the main supplier of it's electricity.Piss off the French,sit in the dark!


.Hydrocarbons pollute and cause global warmng.Hydroelectric ruins rivers and nature.Wind turbines kill migratory birds.Any ocean tide based technology will be found to have killed fish,along with more lovable sea life like dolphins and seals.That leaves us powering the world with solar.


Every use of fuels by humans  will cause damage to the environment. How serious the  damage is could be measured by how long it takes the environment to absorb the damage and repair itself.  Nuclear  use results in damages that  will  take the planet thousands of years to overcome.


Good luck with that.


The future SHOULD be nuclear fusion,but when the alarmists scare the world away from nuclear fission,the advancement to fusion will die as well,and we'll all learn to get by in a world in which only rich people who can afford massive solar arrays have electricity.


When it's not cloudy.


Fantasies of the future cannot be more important than what are dealing with today.


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3 years ago  ::  Apr 29, 2012 - 1:44PM #13
christzen
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Apr 29, 2012 -- 11:32AM, arielg wrote:


Chernobyl and Fukushima were happily toodling along too, until they didn't.  And when they didn't, the damage they caused was far greater  than the  damage done by all the other ways   in years.


 




 


BS.The events at these places are simply more spectacular and newsworthy.In much the same way airplane crashes are more spectacular and newsworthy than a person falling asleep and hitting a light pole and killing himself.People fear flying while not giving driving a second thought,although flying is a much safer means of transportation,from this same phenomenon.


 


 



Apr 29, 2012 -- 11:32AM, arielg wrote:


Every use of fuels by humans  will cause damage to the environment. How serious the  damage is could be measured by how long it takes the environment to absorb the damage and repair itself.  Nuclear  use results in damages that  will  take the planet thousands of years to overcome.



 


Not if the fear mongering would stop and allow nuclear technology to move forward and advance,as has every other technology on the planet once implemented and used properly.Air bags in cars,cell phones the size of a pack of cigarettes instead of a laptop,etc,etc.The use of technology drives advancement of the same.


 


 



Apr 29, 2012 -- 11:32AM, arielg wrote:


Fantasies of the future cannot be more important than what are dealing with today.





 


LOL.Intelligent thinkers turn fantasies into reality.Cell phones in the 1960's?Pshaw! Dick Tracy fantasy stuff.Why waste time trying to make comic book fantasies come true?A computer for every person in America the size of a textbook?Who you frickin kidding?Deal with the reality of computers the size of cars and quit dreaming silly futuristic nonsense!


 Fortunately,the world has people in it that don't disparage the capabilities of future technology.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 29, 2012 - 11:46PM #14
solfeggio
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France is not just 'toodling along' where nuclear energy is concerned.  They've had many problems, most of them unsolveable.


Sarkozy wanted the country to have independence from oil but, in the end, more than 70% of France's energy is provided by oil, gas, and coal, of which one-half is oil alone.  As well, all of France's uranium must be imported, at considerable cost.


Then, there is the nuclear fission waste, which remains in the country, and amounts to something like 50 million tonnes, which could cost the government up to $90 billion to store.


www.thebulletin.org/web-edition/op-eds/t...


Other problems have to do with leaks and even explosions in nuclear power stations.


news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7522712.stm


www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/04/fre...


And, there is the fact that other European nations do not share France's enthusiasm for nuclear energy and see it as a danger rather than a benefit.


www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/04/fre...


Even the French government's committment to nuclear power seems to be coming into question.


www.businessweek.com/magazine/frances-el...


 


 

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3 years ago  ::  May 07, 2012 - 2:13AM #15
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