Apr 28, 2012 -- 10:17PM, teilhard wrote:

YOU (again) OBJECT to the MANNER of Death of the Baby Seals, and THEN you OBJECT when someone else joins in the Discussion ...

No, I asked those who support the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of baby seals why they are clubbed in the head till they're dead instead of being shot, electrocuted, having their throats cut, being strangled, or given a shot.   That does not mean, or even imply, that I "favor" them getting shot, electrocuted, having thier throats cut, being strangled, or given a shot.

If those who support this brutality can't even answer the question, then they can't answer the question.  All that does is undermine their supposed "support" -- no skin off my back, I know why they clobber them with clubs.

Apr 28, 2012 -- 10:17PM, teilhard wrote:

If you don't want a RESPONSE to your Posts, you perhaps ought not POST anything ...

Perhaps you should stick to giving your own opinions, and not tell others what their opinion are.

Howdy Teilhard

I do think that both Solf and Rabello would object to the killing-murder of seals no matter how it is done.   Even it was done with no brutality at all.   Wether they are clubbed, shot, or given a lethal injection.    It is their contention that they are innocent, and they have as much a right to exist as a human being.   They also claim that since it is not "neccesary" to kill-murder  them, then they shouldn't be killed-murdered.  They claim that even it "was" a neccessary evil in the past to kill-murder seals in the past, it is NOT a neccessary evil NOW.   Especially on an industrial scale. 

Being against the slaughter of baby harp seals is hardly an indication of black-and-white thinking, and the reaction such a thing elicits is the opposite from "zeal". 

I would think that those who oppose advocates of the humane treatment of animals would come up with a different counterargument than the tired old equivalent of "your mother wears combat boots" to express their opposition.   It's ok not to care about the seals, or the dolphins, or the whales, or the moutain gorillas, or the siberian tigers, or the elephants, or the wolves, or the prairie dogs, etc, and since it's ok not to care, that's all one really needs to say:  "I don't care and I don't care that you care".

Apr 28, 2012 -- 11:54PM, rabello wrote:

Being against the slaughter of baby harp seals is hardly an indication of black-and-white thinking, and the reaction such a thing elicits is the opposite from "zeal". 

I would think that those who oppose advocates of the humane treatment of animals would come up with a different counterargument than the tired old equivalent of "your mother wears combat boots" to express their opposition.   It's ok not to care about the seals, or the dolphins, or the whales, or the moutain gorillas, or the siberian tigers, or the elephants, or the wolves, or the prairie dogs, etc, and since it's ok not to care, that's all one really needs to say:  "I don't care and I don't care that you care".

What I find most ironic about the whole animal rights debate is that almost without exception, those most  rabidly supportive of animal rights and outraged at the killing of say,baby seals,are also supporters of abortion rights and being able to end the life of unborn humans.

Strange.

Yes ... The Cognitive Dissonance is one of the Reasons I DISTANCE myself from The Zealots, even though I am personaly for various Reasons much in FAVOR of grealy increased "Animal Rights" (and also "Plant's Rights") ...

Apr 28, 2012 -- 11:59PM, christzen wrote:

Apr 28, 2012 -- 11:54PM, rabello wrote:

Being against the slaughter of baby harp seals is hardly an indication of black-and-white thinking, and the reaction such a thing elicits is the opposite from "zeal". 

I would think that those who oppose advocates of the humane treatment of animals would come up with a different counterargument than the tired old equivalent of "your mother wears combat boots" to express their opposition.   It's ok not to care about the seals, or the dolphins, or the whales, or the moutain gorillas, or the siberian tigers, or the elephants, or the wolves, or the prairie dogs, etc, and since it's ok not to care, that's all one really needs to say:  "I don't care and I don't care that you care".

 

What I find most ironic about the whole animal rights debate is that almost without exception, those most  rabidly supportive of animal rights and outraged at the killing of say,baby seals,are also supporters of abortion rights and being able to end the life of unborn humans.

Strange.