Christine:  About 9 billion animals are slaughtered every year.  Is it necessary?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse

Jane:  Any of us can generate statistics.

Christine:  These are not just "generated" statistics.  Why would you say such a thing?  Nobody on this thread can "generate" such statistics.  Are you minimalizing, or what?

Jane:  In a liberal Catholic college and beyond I have never run into the rigidity I have seen by vegans and vegetarians on this board.

Christine:  Ditto.  I'm asking for less violence on the planet.  It will happen.

Jane:  Eat and live as you wish. I am weary of Solf's crusades. Murder is rampant in Syria--that concerns me.

Christine:  Murder is rampant EVERYWHERE.  That concerns me.

Jane:  I was educated in the high and liberal dimensions of Catholic thought where we were encouraged to seek the best of ourselves. I'm a devotee of Thomas Merton. Our outlooks vary and that is okay. I doubt you have studied Thomas Merton.

Christine:  I've read Thomas Merton, a fine author and thinker.  So what does that have to do with anything on this thread? 

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:06PM, teilhard wrote:

MAYBE The Cow seen "fleeing The SlaughterHouse" was just running-out to get a CheeseBurger and Fries ... ???

It looks like I've got a lot of work ahead.

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:23PM, christine3 wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:16PM, jane2 wrote:

christine

You never answer a reasonable reply.

I think I do.

I don't think so. I presented my outlook in moral theology and philosophy and you ignored it even though many of you say you seek a more philosophical discussion--only if you agree.

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:04PM, christine3 wrote:

You say things that are demonstrably untrue about me time and time again.

What I have said is true as I have demonstrated it to be. That you cannot understand that doesn't make what I said to be untrue.

What I am asking for is less violence on the planet. Don't tell me it isn't possible, it is.

You are asking for a less violent world by attacking those that don't agree with your methods? That makes no sense. It's not your message that's the problem but your methods are.

Actually, "Kosher- Halal" Slaughter (throat slit VERY quickly by a skilled person) and the blood thus pumped OUT of the animal as it dies ... results in SUPERIOR meat ...

Apr 18, 2012 -- 12:33AM, mountain_man wrote:

Apr 17, 2012 -- 10:52PM, solfeggio wrote:

I agree with you, Christine.  To make jokes about the very real terror that a cow must feel knowing she is about to have her throat slit is not just disgusting but nauseating.....

No, what is nauseating are the highly emotional, and blatantly false, claims like the one above. Most slaughter houses do not slit the throat to kill the animal. They use a pneumatic captive bolt gun" that stuns the animal. The animal has no idea, nor is capable of the concept, of what is about to happen. So, leave out the supercilious and emotional arguments. They just make you look bad and, as you can see, do nothing to further your cause.