| 1 year ago :: Apr 11, 2012 - 9:33PM #11 | |
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I would think that manslaughter would be a lesser included offense and would be included in the court's instructions these many months in the future. However, I do not know Florida law. |
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 11, 2012 - 9:34PM #12 | |
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Yes ... IF later on The Defendant "cops a Plea," it will be to a LESSER Charge ...
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 12, 2012 - 8:58AM #13 | |
Now that the facts are out I can depart from my independent position and state that I always felt Zimmerman should have been charged with voluntary manslaughter. I will never give in to the mob hysteria that many posters succumed to on this issue; Teilhard being the worst offender. |
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 12, 2012 - 12:23PM #14 | |
Justice has been served from day one. There is a process to go through instead of jumping to emotional, hysterical conclusions based on one's preconceptions. Justice is not only served when the result is what some people want. As far as I am concerned, the guy is guilty just for the fact of going around the neighborhood with a loaded gun. It remains to be seen what kind of credible arguments he can come up with to diminish his guilt. This is a case where he is guilty until he proves himself innocent. His only hope is how much of an excuse can the interpretation of the "stand your ground" law can give him.
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 12, 2012 - 2:29PM #15 | |
Agreed
That the bare fists of a teenager are more lethal than the bullets in his gun.
He could argue that he is a victim of Florida's lax gun laws and of Florida's Stand Your Ground law, allowing him to think he's protected from the lethality of a teenager's bare fists. |
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 12, 2012 - 3:48PM #16 | |
"When it shall be said in any country in the world, my poor are happy; neither ignorance nor distress is to be found among them; my jails are empty of prisoners, my streets of beggars; the aged are not in want, the taxes are not oppressive; the rational world is my friend, because I am a friend of its happiness: When these things can be said, then may the country boast its constitution and its government." -- Thomas Paine: The Rights Of Man (1791)
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 12, 2012 - 3:54PM #17 | |
"When it shall be said in any country in the world, my poor are happy; neither ignorance nor distress is to be found among them; my jails are empty of prisoners, my streets of beggars; the aged are not in want, the taxes are not oppressive; the rational world is my friend, because I am a friend of its happiness: When these things can be said, then may the country boast its constitution and its government." -- Thomas Paine: The Rights Of Man (1791)
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 12, 2012 - 3:55PM #18 | |
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Considering the recent cases that have been dismissed in Florida under its “stand your ground” law, I have little confidence that this case will go to trial. I have less confidence that Zimmerman will be convicted or will spend a day in prison on such conviction. Not that I am cynical. Indeed, considering the recent cases that have been dismissed in under Florida’s “stand your ground” law, I think it would be somewhat unfortunate for this case to go to trial and result in a conviction, if its dismissal (or Zimmerman’s acquittal) could lead to the repeal of these and other NRA-sponsored laws. |
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 12, 2012 - 4:11PM #19 | |
I share your lack of confidence in this situation. But, the worst of all worlds would be for Zimmerman to get off but the NRA-sponsored laws that protect the shooter and not the victim don't get repealed, which is what I think is the most likely outcome. |
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 12, 2012 - 4:17PM #20 | |
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I'm betting on his conviction and that an appeals court down the road will provide some substantial guidance about the interpretation of this law. |
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