May 3, 2012 -- 6:02PM, arielg wrote:

 I know. You like a dying struggle.

Actually, I like mint chocolate chip ice cream and chubby puppies. 

But that's beside the point. 

I understand that:

A: You don't like hunting, and have some opinons regarding why people do it.

B: Think that wildlife does not need to be managed.

And you are more than welcome to hold those views. But you have got to back them up with rational arguments that are relevant to the wolf managment program in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. 

I haven't spend hundreds of hours researching, writing about and in the company of experts in numerous disiplines related to those issues to waste time trying to counter idealoge sermons and  assumpions about my mental state.

Now, once again, do you have anything of substance to offer?

Because if I want preaching, blovating and scorn about what a terrible person I am, all I have to do is walk down the street to nearest church and start an argument with the pastor about the Nicean doctrine of the Trinity. 

No, some of us have simply tried to make the point that wildlife does not need to be managed by humans.

If you truly respect nature, you will leave the animals alone.

We should live side by side with the natural world, affording the nonhuman animals the respect and right to life that we give to ourselves.  Instead, we act as if the world is ours exclusively and that we will allow the other animals may share it only if we say so, and only if where they wish to live does not encroach upon our territory.

We shove the nonhuman animals into smaller and smaller areas as we expand and greedily steal the land upon which they have lived far longer than we have.  We are so vain that we act as if we have a right to do this simply because we are humans and they are not.

But the sad fact is that any time humans try to solve some perceived 'problem' with wildlife, they inevitably create another.

May 2, 2012 -- 6:30PM, solfeggio wrote:

 And New Zealand's energy system is hydroelectric.

So is America's.  It just so happens that a somewhat larger percentage of our hydroelectric energy system comes from fossil fuels than the 26% of your electricity that comes from burning things. 

Wait.  New Zealand?  I'll have you know that I'm a resident of Wyoming.  Yellowstone is my business, not yours.  You wouldn't want me mucking around insisting that you raise fewer sheep, would you?  And I'd have more justification.  Your sheep affect the price that Wyoming ranchers get for their sheep.  How, exactly, do the wolves who get shot for making a snack out of Wyoming sheep affect you? 

May 3, 2012 -- 7:43PM, fodaoson wrote:

Maybe the thread should be retitled  ,Redneck  opinionated A-holes with guns  computers and internet.

That would be me.  LOL!

meanwhile back in Texas two African deer species may go extinct because of Federal interference