| 1 year ago :: Mar 31, 2012 - 7:07PM #11 | |
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Fair enough. But political will seems to be what it's all about, and that does seem to be lacking. What would it take to get people on the bandwagon for renewable energy sources? |
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| 1 year ago :: Mar 31, 2012 - 7:14PM #12 | |
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(1) Considerably HIGHER Energy Bills, and perhaps regular Shortage/Outage Experiences ... (2) Increased Eco-Disasters ...
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 01, 2012 - 8:43PM #13 | |
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Don't they need a Federal permit to build a N plant?
For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible. St. Thomas Aquinas If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9 |
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 02, 2012 - 2:14PM #14 | |
What if you were to learn that accidents with hydroelectric dams of the past 40 years are responsible for many more deaths than all accidents at nuclear power plants? Do you know of any accident that has happened at any nuclear power plant that was not preventable? You mentioned “the problem of disposing of radioactive garbage,” which you say “nobody has ever solved”. You don’t know of death or injury due to any such “problem of disposing of radioactive garbage” during the past 50 years of nuclear power plants, despite not having any laws or treaties regulating the disposal of such “radioactive garbage” for most of these years, do you? The problem of "radioactive garbage" seems to be somewhat less than the problem of straight razors.
BTW, my questions here are not just for Solfeggio. Anyone is welcomed to answer them. (I'm sure that's going to happen.)
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 02, 2012 - 4:09PM #15 | |
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And we all know how Safe and Friendly Coal-Fired Power Plants are, yes ... ?? E.g., Coal MINING is so Safe that NOBODY dies in Coal Mine Accidents these Days, right ... ??? And Coal-Fired Power Generation produces and releases NO harmful Pollutants, right ... ??? |
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 02, 2012 - 4:31PM #16 | |
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 02, 2012 - 7:18PM #17 | |
Of course it is not well established. Indeed, the epidemiological studies suggest that low level exposure may reduce the probablility of certain types of disease. The 'no safe threshold' assumption was, and is, simply a very conservative assumption in the absence of data.
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 02, 2012 - 7:25PM #18 | |
Ah yes, Fukushima. The very old, very primitive plant, hit by the biggest tidal wave and strongest earthquake in recorded Japanese history. The one with far fewer inherent safety features than modern designs. All of which resulted in probably the second worst nuclear accident in the history of commercial nuclear energy - the horrible disaster that resulted in exactly zero radiation related casualties. As in none, zip, zilch. A couple of workers who broke safety protocols ended up with something like a burn/scald/sunburn. The two plant workers who died were caught by the tidal wave that went over the seawall. And yet, zero radiation casualties. Not one death. That's pretty good for the second worst nuclear power accident, don't you think? Nuclear power is probably the safest form of generally available power. Maybe geothermal is better, but you need special geography for that to work, and I don't know that I have figures for that industry. Certainly it is safer than all the major alternatives.
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 02, 2012 - 7:29PM #19 | |
No, it isn't. Our nuclear plants are producing electricity at (IIRC) 5.5 cents/Kwh, while in its infinite lack of wisdom, our provincial government is paying something like 80 cents/Kwh for wind generated power. Nuclear power has a pretty good track record for cost, even without correcting for the very overdone approval and licencing red tape that drives up costs and delays projects.
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| 1 year ago :: Apr 02, 2012 - 7:38PM #20 | |
Pikers. The French generate 79% of their power from nuclear plants, and if the Germans go through with scrapping theirs, they will probably have to build a few more to export the power to Germany. I'm giving the Germans a 60% chance of recovering their sanity and building their own nuclear plants. With about 3% of the population of the US, our province has 18 reactors in service and two more on order, and they currently provide more than 50% of our power. It's probably only such a low percentage because Niagara Falls is such a lovely cheap source of hydroelectricity. To match us on a per capita basis the US would need about 650 reactors. Of course they prefer to burn coal, which releases both more radiation, and toxic heavy metals that will never self-destruct. Now if we could only get rid of the damn wind turbines we'd be doing rather well.
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