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2 years ago  ::  Apr 08, 2012 - 2:19PM #721
arielg
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The so called justice is most of the time  simply looking for vengeance. Killing or harming someone else will not bring the  dead back.


 The only justice here is  change whatever is causing the problem, so it can be avoided in the future.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 08, 2012 - 2:28PM #722
teilhard
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No ... ONE Aspect -- NOT the ONLY Aspect -- of "Justice" is indeed "Retribution" (which is NOT the same Thing as "Vengeance") ... 


("Vengeance" = "You killed MY Cousin, so I kill YOUR Cousin ...") ...


If I am caught, say, "speeding" and I get a "Speeding Citation," it will cost ME some $$$ in the Form of a Fine, not only to finance The System, but to impose on ME (the careless Offender) a real COST for my breaking of a Public Safety Rule in hope that I will learn a hard Lesson and NOT repeat my careless and DANGEROUS Offense ...


Just so, a more serious Offense sends the Offender to Probation or Jail or Prison NOT for the Sake of "Revenge," but in hope that depriving the Offender of her/his Liberty, a hard Lesson will be LEARNED ...


These Things are imposed by Society as a Whole for SAKE of Society as a Whole ... and NOT as some crude primitve unenlightened "Vengeance" ...


Apr 8, 2012 -- 2:19PM, arielg wrote:


The so called justice is most of the time  simply looking for vengeance. Killing or harming someone else will not bring the  dead back.


 The only justice here is  change whatever is causing the problem, so it can be avoided in the future.





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2 years ago  ::  Apr 08, 2012 - 6:55PM #723
Marcion
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Apr 8, 2012 -- 12:03PM, TPaine wrote:


Apr 8, 2012 -- 8:58AM, Marcion wrote:


Another example of what happens when you open pandoras box.


blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/04/...



So wanting justice is opening Pandora's Box? Sharpton was asked to get involved by Trayvon's mother? Who invited the neo-Nazis?




If you had a brain inyour head you would see I have posted from both points of view. I have not taken any sides on this issue.


I am merely trying to point out that kangaroo justice and vigilantism will always rear their ugly heads if the facts are not presented.


Sharpton is worse than any neo-nazi.


Speaking of vigilamtism the ultra liberal Washington Post equated Zimmerman with all fictional vigilates like Batman, Spiderman, Dirty Harry, Charles Bronson. I doubt seriously Zimmerman belongs in their company.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2012 - 1:44PM #724
teilhard
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The Special Prosecutor has decided NOT to convene a Grand Jury ...

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 2:56PM #725
TPaine
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Apr 8, 2012 -- 6:55PM, Marcion wrote:


Sharpton is worse than any neo-nazi.



Sharpton is worse than This? Are you sure you don't want to rethink that comment?

"It is always to be taken for granted, that those who oppose an equality of rights never mean the exclusion should take place on themselves." -- Thomas Paine: Dissertations on First Principles of Government (July 7, 1795)
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2 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 3:29PM #726
mainecaptain
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Apr 8, 2012 -- 6:55PM, Marcion wrote:


Sharpton is worse than any neo-nazi.



SPECIFY? In what way is he worse then neo-nazi. Give specific examples. Because all I have seen is Sharpton stating facts, in this case he was called in by the dead child parents.



If your child was gunned down, would you try and have someone help you, get justice? Maybe not.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 4:47PM #727
rabello
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George goes rogue


His lawyers have had to drop him as a client because they can't contact him and he disregards their advice...called Hannity on FAUX Noise (suprise, surprise.../NOT!) and the special prosecutor's office all on his own.  Vigilantism gone mainstream

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 5:09PM #728
mytmouse57
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Apr 10, 2012 -- 4:47PM, rabello wrote:


George goes rogue


His lawyers have had to drop him as a client because they can't contact him and he disregards their advice...called Hannity on FAUX Noise (suprise, surprise.../NOT!) and the special prosecutor's office all on his own.  Vigilantism gone mainstream




Yes, I just read that his lawyers dropped him. 


This case just keeps getting weirder. 

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 6:28PM #729
teilhard
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The Neighborhod Watch Guy needed -- and obviously still needs -- somebody to keep tabs on HIM ...


Apr 10, 2012 -- 4:47PM, rabello wrote:


George goes rogue


His lawyers have had to drop him as a client because they can't contact him and he disregards their advice...called Hannity on FAUX Noise (suprise, surprise.../NOT!) and the special prosecutor's office all on his own.  Vigilantism gone mainstream





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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 8:04AM #730
Marcion
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Apr 10, 2012 -- 2:56PM, TPaine wrote:


Apr 8, 2012 -- 6:55PM, Marcion wrote:


Sharpton is worse than any neo-nazi.



Sharpton is worse than This? Are you sure you don't want to rethink that comment?




Sharpton was never called to task for destroying a mans life in his Tawana Brawley hoax. He got away scott free to pursue his racist rabblerousing.

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