Apr 7, 2012 -- 4:10PM, Stardove wrote:

Apr 7, 2012 -- 9:43AM, Marcion wrote:

This what Sharptonmania leads to. Hope you all are happy with the results of your irrational  hysteria.

www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2012/04/...

No, this story doesn't make me happy. Nor do I believe I have had irrational hysteria.

It is events just like this which have people where they can carry handguns doing just that.  If the victim in this story had simply pulled a gun, the "children" might have stopped in their tracks and the assault would have not happened. 

Punks will always be punks as these "children" were.

Just seeing a person is armed has stopped crimes from happening.  It isn't always necessary to shot the criminals. 

First thing I would do, if someone is out to harm me is get my gun out and turn on the laser.

Seeing a red dot on one's chest should give a person pause, imo.

Star, you and I are in different spheres on handguns, but I have loved this poem by the metaphysical John Donne since I was in my mid-teens

No Man is an Island

Apr 7, 2012 -- 8:11PM, Stardove wrote:

Thanks Jane for the poem. We do not have to agree on every issue. 

We both love our grand-children and children dearly on that matter we are together. 

Even though I would never go hunting I was raised by a hunter who still goes at 90 years of age.  So I suppose my not being afraid of guns is in my genes.  My daddy's nickname happens to be Gene. 

I do believe we are all influenced by our parents to some degree.  My mother would never hunt either, but she encouraged me to get my CHL.

Hi Star

I have no problems with hunting. My husband's family rented a pontoon plane to fly them to their hunting refuge in Maine. When my husband  died my son-in-law sold his and his father's hunting rifles and shotguns for me along with his pistol. I stilll have my husband's NRA Junior Hunters School card from 1953.

I do wonder about the handguns in the hands of those who should not have them. And disagreeing with civility is why we have discussion boards.

And we do love our children and grandchildren dearly. They are such a gift and a blessing to us. At my husband's funeral our pastor reminded us to keep telling the stories. While visiting my son's family last week, we did just that.  My oldest granddaughter loves the stories as I do. So does my younger daughter. From generation to generation............

I thought you would like Donne's poem. Ya know I'm an OTL Lit major and that poem has influenced my life and thinking for decades.

Yes ... I was afraid ... So I shot him ... Case CLOSED ...

Apr 7, 2012 -- 9:00PM, rabello wrote:

The real problem in this case is the Stand Your Ground law, which, in the end,  is what is going to allow Zimmerman to get away with what he did.  It is the horrendous realization of what the critics of this sloppy law have been warning against from its inception. 

Apr 7, 2012 -- 9:00PM, rabello wrote:

The real problem in this case is the Stand Your Ground law, which, in the end,  is what is going to allow Zimmerman to get away with what he did.  It is the horrendous realization of what the critics of this sloppy law have been warning against from its inception. 

>>>>>> This law needs to be re-examined. Should not be abused by criminals.