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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 6:17PM #31
Girlchristian
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 5:10PM, mainecaptain wrote:



Mar 1, 2012 -- 4:52PM, TemplarS wrote:

I am not myself convinced that insurance companies should be forced to pay 100% for contraceptives....




Oh I give up. I can not believe anyone would question such a thing. It is anti women no matter how one wants to play word games and cognitive dissonance.


Is not covering viagra at 100% anti-male? Is not covering insulin at 100% anti-diabetic? Most insurance companies don't cover ANY medicine at 100%. You're demanding special consideration for women.


It is more then just "birth control" It is the desire to deny women basic medical care and medicine. Morality means that insurance companies pay for this.


Unfriggin believable that this is being discussed. What is it with people these day that see this is something that should be debated. Who are you, that you feel it is alright to deny women health care? Because yes birth control medication is part of women's overall health care. People take birth control medication for many things not involving birth and pregnancy control.


And I know it is a forgotten knowledge, but pregnancy is dangerous, people die, yes still die in childbirth and pregnancy. Preventing it is medically, necessary for some women.





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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 6:20PM #32
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 5:03PM, mountain_man wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 4:52PM, TemplarS wrote:

I am not myself convinced that insurance companies should be forced to pay 100% for contraceptives....


Cost savings and higher profits. It costs less to supply birth control than it does to pay for a birth. Also, quite often birth control is prescribed for purposes other than preventing birth.


Insurance covers many other drugs, so why not birth control? The proper question is not "why should they?" but "why shouldn't they?"




They don't cover them at 100% of the cost with the patient not having any co-pay so why should birth control be covered at 100%?

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 6:35PM #33
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Hasn't Rush been married two or three times? Rush has NO children. How do you suppose that happened? Or does he only marry sterile women?

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 6:43PM #34
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 6:35PM, mainecaptain wrote:


Hasn't Rush been married two or three times? Rush has NO children. How do you suppose that happened? Or does he only marry sterile women?





In Rush's case, probably ain't the fault of the wife.  Any of them.


And, would you want to give birth to the Spawn of Slimeball?


I wouldn't . Not even for all the money in the world.


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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 7:00PM #35
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Contraception, abortion, pap’s smears, Sonograms, breast exams are health issues.  Health issue should not be political footballs.    Copay should be part of standard health care.  Copay keeps the user involved and aware.


If a woman does not want to use contraception on religious grounds, her insurance company does not have to pay for the non-use.   Religious institutions employing workers provide (usually)  group coverage through a third part insurance company, the religious institution does not carry its own.   All groups covered, not just the religious persons covered,   are considered in the insurance company setting it premiums based on risk.  Non contraceptive coverage carries a higher risk medically than those covered.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 7:07PM #36
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I am taking a medication with a $265 copay every 3 months. I have a health care spending account, so it is essentially free for me.  The first time I got it, I mentioned to the pharmacist that there must be a lot of people who cannot afford that kind of co-pay (and some are much higher, some cancer drugs for instance.) About 10 times a day she has to talk to people who are stunned and can't pay for their prescriptions. 

IMO, a country as rich as the US who puts is citizens through this kind of BS is just pathetic.  People don't take needed meds because they can't afford them.


The (hypocritical) Republicans throw Christianity in everyone's face, but while Jesus said nothing about gay marriage, he did give a specific command to care for the sick.   

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 7:14PM #37
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 7:07PM, REteach wrote:

The (hypocritical) Republicans throw Christianity in everyone's face, but while Jesus said nothing about gay marriage, he did give a specific command to care for the sick.


+1


(And I'm personally so very tired of Republicans, Christianity, and politics right now.) 

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 7:36PM #38
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 6:17PM, Girlchristian wrote:

Is not covering viagra at 100% anti-male?


No, Viagra is not necessary to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Viagra is not medically necessary to maintain the health of men. There is no comparison.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 7:37PM #39
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 6:20PM, Girlchristian wrote:

They don't cover them at 100% of the cost with the patient not having any co-pay so why should birth control be covered at 100%?


Some plans cover drugs without a co-pay. Those are the plans the rich usually have. They could care less about the "unwashed masses" and their medical problems.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 7:45PM #40
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 7:36PM, mountain_man wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 6:17PM, Girlchristian wrote:

Is not covering viagra at 100% anti-male?


No, Viagra is not necessary to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Viagra is not medically necessary to maintain the health of men. There is no comparison.




Sex is necessary to maintain the health of a relationship at least according to many on the pro-choice side. Without viagra some men cannot have sex.

It is medically necessary for a diabetic's health to have insulin and yet we aren't demanding that insurance companies cover it at 100% of the cost.


Again, why the demand that BC (and in turn women) have special considerations that we don't make for any other medicines?

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