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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 10:03PM #61
rabello
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 9:34PM, REteach wrote:


I know a solution.


WOMEN OF THE US, UNITE!  No contraception, No Sex!  Cut them off! When the guys start getting blue balls, they'll start talking out of the other side of their shorts. 





Mar 1, 2012 -- 9:35PM, REteach wrote:


After all, vaseline and kleenex don't require a prescription. 




Or...make them buy and use condoms each and every time.  No exceptions, ever, till there is no need to use birth control anymore (30 years give or take)

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 11:57PM #62
mainecaptain
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 10:03PM, rabello wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 9:34PM, REteach wrote:


I know a solution.


WOMEN OF THE US, UNITE!  No contraception, No Sex!  Cut them off! When the guys start getting blue balls, they'll start talking out of the other side of their shorts. 





Mar 1, 2012 -- 9:35PM, REteach wrote:


After all, vaseline and kleenex don't require a prescription. 




Or...make them buy and use condoms each and every time.  No exceptions, ever, till there is no need to use birth control anymore (30 years give or take)




I agree with both of you

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2012 - 9:01AM #63
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 9:34PM, REteach wrote:


I know a solution.


WOMEN OF THE US, UNITE!  No contraception, No Sex!  Cut them off! When the guys start getting blue balls, they'll start talking out of the other side of their shorts. 





That's how the women I know handle contraception and sex. If he wants sex and she can't afford the full cost of birth control then he should help pay for the contraception and if he won't then no sex.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2012 - 9:16AM #64
Ebon
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Birth control is free here. Hormonal birth control has to be prescribed but getting the prescription filled is exempt from even the small don't-bug-the-doctor-with-minor-crap fee for filling prescriptions. You can walk into any doctor's office and get a pack of a dozen rubbers (plain ones, you pay for the fancy ones). They even have little cards you can hand to the receptionist if you're too embaressed to speak. Paying for birth control is cheaper than paying for maternity benefits or abortion.


This is what happens when sex is considered a matter of health rather than morality. Now, our teen pregnancy rate is still higher than we'd like but that's more to do with cultural factors than about access to contraception.

He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. ~ Proverbs 14:31

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2012 - 10:15AM #65
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Mar 2, 2012 -- 9:01AM, Girlchristian wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 9:34PM, REteach wrote:


I know a solution.


WOMEN OF THE US, UNITE!  No contraception, No Sex!  Cut them off! When the guys start getting blue balls, they'll start talking out of the other side of their shorts. 





That's how the women I know handle contraception and sex. If he wants sex and she can't afford the full cost of birth control then he should help pay for the contraception and if he won't then no sex.




"No glove, no love."  Wink

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2012 - 10:50AM #66
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 8:59PM, rabello wrote:


This one isn't about the taxpayers.   How'd that even come up?





I believe Rush brought it up.  But, another example of his ignorance.  This is about insurance companies.


But, of course, it is still not free. The insurance companies are not going to eat the cost of this.  They are going to raise your premiums.  So it is you and I who are going to pay. I actually don't mind in this case;  though as I said, I think it ought to be covered on the same basis as other drugs (copay if applicable).

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2012 - 10:54AM #67
Girlchristian
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Mar 2, 2012 -- 10:50AM, TemplarS wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 8:59PM, rabello wrote:


This one isn't about the taxpayers.   How'd that even come up?





I believe Rush brought it up.  But, another example of his ignorance.  This is about insurance companies.


But, of course, it is still not free. The insurance companies are not going to eat the cost of this.  They are going to raise your premiums.  So it is you and I who are going to pay. I actually don't mind in this case;  though as I said, I think it ought to be covered on the same basis as other drugs (copay if applicable).




In full agreement. I have no problem off-setting the cost, but it should not be free. Other drugs aren't free and noboby here has yet answered the question 'why should women get their bc for free when others don't get their needed medicine for free'?

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2012 - 11:09AM #68
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People have their reasons for thinking birthcontrol should be free and covered by the tax payer.  I personally disagree.



I personally don't see free access to birthcontrol as some sort of human right.  To be more specific I am not moraly opposed to birth control but I don't use any hormone related bc because I have tried it a few times and find it miserable.  My husband behaves just fine dealing with rubbers and what not, he is not exceptional he is just an adult.  Lots of women who are fertile, sexualy active and can afford the pill still don't use it because they don't like it.


I think I read last week that 32% of american women take birthcontrol pills.


I think birthcontrol pills should be cheaper, it is an old medical technology and not that special.  I think we should have initiatives to produce a few generic options for birth control pills to provide a cheaper option. I think they should be available OTC



Again, I think Rush was being outrageous and ridiculous dragging this woman's virtue into the conversation.  But that is the genius of Rush.  He says something on Monday and everyone is talking about it for the rest of the week. 

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2012 - 11:37AM #69
rabello
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Mar 2, 2012 -- 10:54AM, Girlchristian wrote:


In full agreement. I have no problem off-setting the cost, but it should not be free. Other drugs aren't free and noboby here has yet answered the question 'why should women get their bc for free when others don't get their needed medicine for free'?




Well, for one thing, it's not really germaine to the topic.


But more than that, I am not sure that the mandate is for insurance companies to provide "free" birth control to all it's female beneficiaries.  The mandate is to provide coverage under their current plans, which, today most do not.


Third, the topic, here, as it relates to Rush Limbaugh's words, is plain old misogyny and now we know Limbaugh is a true dirty old man who likes porn.

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2 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2012 - 11:42AM #70
Ebon
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Mar 2, 2012 -- 10:54AM, Girlchristian wrote:

In full agreement. I have no problem off-setting the cost, but it should not be free. Other drugs aren't free and noboby here has yet answered the question 'why should women get their bc for free when others don't get their needed medicine for free'?



Of course, that doesn't apply here since all drugs are free (at point of delivery anyway, we pay for it through taxes and the don't-bug-your-doctor prescription fee). The simple fact is that it is cheaper for society to provide free pills or rubbers than it is to provide for a child through food stamps or maternity benefits. This isn't about "why should X get Y?", it's simply about what is cheaper for society to provide.


That said, some form of single-payer healthcare would also be vastly cheaper to the country. The US spends $2.3 trillion on the combination of Medicare, Medicaid and private insurance and still leaves about forty million uninsured. Covering everyone at the same cost as the NHS would cost about $600 billion. Now, we still have private insurers here and people still buy it for all kinds of reasons like wanting brand-name drugs or skipping the availability lists or even just the status symbol but the NHS means that everyone has, in effect, basic insurance with the freedom to buy more if you want.

He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. ~ Proverbs 14:31

Fiat justitia, ruat caelum

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