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3 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 7:52PM #41
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 7:45PM, Girlchristian wrote:

Sex is necessary to maintain the health of a relationship at least according to many on the pro-choice side. Without viagra some men cannot have sex.


Nice try, but it won't work. That (the relationship) is a psychological problem, not a health problem.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 8:12PM #42
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 7:45PM, Girlchristian wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 7:36PM, mountain_man wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 6:17PM, Girlchristian wrote:

Is not covering viagra at 100% anti-male?


No, Viagra is not necessary to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Viagra is not medically necessary to maintain the health of men. There is no comparison.




Sex is necessary to maintain the health of a relationship at least according to many on the pro-choice side. Without viagra some men cannot have sex.

It is medically necessary for a diabetic's health to have insulin and yet we aren't demanding that insurance companies cover it at 100% of the cost.


Again, why the demand that BC (and in turn women) have special considerations that we don't make for any other medicines?




A new law the Oklahoma legislature is trying to pass would make my birth control illegal. You'll pardon me if I don't give a flying fart if some old man can't get it up any more.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 8:12PM #43
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 5:03PM, mountain_man wrote:


Cost savings and higher profits. It costs less to supply birth control than it does to pay for a birth. 




Maybe so.  But if this were the case, you'd think the insurance companies would cover contraceptives as a prudent business decision without the government needing to mandate it.  These guys are nothing if not lousy with accountants and financial analysts. 

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 8:17PM #44
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 8:12PM, TemplarS wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 5:03PM, mountain_man wrote:


Cost savings and higher profits. It costs less to supply birth control than it does to pay for a birth. 




Maybe so.  But if this were the case, you'd think the insurance companies would cover contraceptives as a prudent business decision without the government needing to mandate it.  These guys are nothing if not lousy with accountants and financial analysts. 




Have you ever known any company to cover anything without being forced to? Look back at the Civil Rights movement. Adding blacks into the mix doubles the customer base. But try telling the companies that. They had to be forced into it.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 8:20PM #45
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 5:10PM, mainecaptain wrote:



Mar 1, 2012 -- 4:52PM, TemplarS wrote:

I am not myself convinced that insurance companies should be forced to pay 100% for contraceptives....




Oh I give up. I can not believe anyone would question such a thing. It is anti women no matter how one wants to play word games and cognitive dissonance.





Give up, then. Or read what I actually wrote before you start pontificating.


I'm not questioning whether insurance ought to cover contraceptives. I'm questioning the inconsistency in being forced to cover 100% of the cost here, when every other drug out there requires a co-pay.  People out there who need heart medications or chemo simply to stay alive have to pay something for those meds; in some case, huge amounts.  


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3 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 8:33PM #46
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The Blunt Amendment, which would have overthrown the requirement that insurance companies cover the cost of contraception for women even with Obama's compromise was voted on in the Senate today, and only one Republican voted against it -- Olympia Snow.  Even Susan Collins voted for it. 


Limbaugh said he'd pay every woman student at Georgetown for as many aspirin as they want to put between their knees.


I think he should be fired, such slander goes beyond first amendment rights.  But since that won't happen, I hope his sponsors pull their support from his radio show.   Perhaps a boycott of those sponsors will pick up steam, now.   I really hope Ms Fluke sues him. 

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 8:35PM #47
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 8:17PM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 8:12PM, TemplarS wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 5:03PM, mountain_man wrote:


Cost savings and higher profits. It costs less to supply birth control than it does to pay for a birth. 




Maybe so.  But if this were the case, you'd think the insurance companies would cover contraceptives as a prudent business decision without the government needing to mandate it.  These guys are nothing if not lousy with accountants and financial analysts. 




Have you ever known any company to cover anything without being forced to? Look back at the Civil Rights movement. Adding blacks into the mix doubles the customer base. But try telling the companies that. They had to be forced into it.




Very few companies will do the right thing unless forced.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 8:45PM #48
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 8:12PM, TemplarS wrote:

Maybe so.  But if this were the case, you'd think the insurance companies would cover contraceptives as a prudent business decision without the government needing to mandate it.  These guys are nothing if not lousy with accountants and financial analysts.


Yes, and they are all short sighted looking only at making a profit TODAY for their board of directors. Quick profits, short sighted.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 8:51PM #49
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Mar 1, 2012 -- 8:12PM, TemplarS wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 5:03PM, mountain_man wrote:


Cost savings and higher profits. It costs less to supply birth control than it does to pay for a birth. 




Maybe so.  But if this were the case, you'd think the insurance companies would cover contraceptives as a prudent business decision without the government needing to mandate it.  These guys are nothing if not lousy with accountants and financial analysts. 



They are stupid. I remember when I worked in the NICU there was a baby who could have gone home on $500 a month of oxygen. The insurance company wouldn't cover that, but they would cover well over $30K a month to stay in the NICU.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 8:53PM #50
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I'm not sure which is more of a dog & pony show.


Warren Buffet's poor, hardscrabble $200,000 a year secretary, with two houses , or


the downtrodden dejour $ 50,000 a year  Georgetown Law student  so poor she must choose


between cat food or sex?


It is so obvious that only the taxpayers can help them now. 


 

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