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Flag REteach March 2, 2012 7:47 PM EST

Mar 2, 2012 -- 12:27PM, drawout wrote:


Its time for my obligatory call for vasectomies. C'mon guys,man up and drop em on the table if You dont want kids. 



I like that.  Let's also whack the vas of any man who has a child he does not support. 

Flag hamerhas March 3, 2012 8:39 AM EST

There  other terms more  descriptive of someone unmarried, ingaging in prolific fornication so


casual , that neither her nor any of the multiple sperm donating fornicators care to take


responsibilty for reprecussions of their fornication , but instead want to publically


whine that their fornicating should be bankrolled for them by others. 


I'm sure Rush just wanted to use the kindest term he could.


Bless his heart.  

Flag TPaine March 3, 2012 9:14 AM EST

Last night Rachel Maddow did a segment on her show about this controversy in which she posited that Limbaugh doesn't know how oral contraceptives work. It surprises me that a reasonably intelligent adult, much less one with "talent on loan from God" would understand that a woman takes one pill per day whether she intended to have intercourse or not. Unlike Viagra, Rush, they aren't taken every time the person has sex. Further, combined oral contraceptive pills (COCP) are also prescribed for women's health problems that have nothing to do with preventing pregnancy. The reason Sandra Fluke asked to testify in the first place was because her friend couldn't afford  the pills her doctor prescribed to combat an ovarian cyst which necessitated the removal of the ovary. Link

Flag Ken March 3, 2012 9:14 AM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 8:39AM, hamerhas wrote:


There  other terms more  descriptive of someone unmarried, ingaging in prolific fornication so


casual , that neither her nor any of the multiple sperm donating fornicators care to take


responsibilty for reprecussions of their fornication , but instead want to publically


whine that their fornicating should be bankrolled for them by others.


That's not the sort of thing a gentleman would write, is it?


I'm sure Rush just wanted to use the kindest term he could.


Bless his heart.  



Rush Limbaugh bites the heads off kittens and puppies.

Flag TPaine March 3, 2012 10:01 AM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 8:39AM, hamerhas wrote:


There other terms more descriptive of someone unmarried, ingaging in prolific fornication so casual , that neither her nor any of the multiple sperm donating fornicators care to take responsibilty for reprecussions of their fornication, but instead want to publically whine that their fornicating should be bankrolled for them by others. I'm sure Rush just wanted to use the kindest term he could.


Bless his heart.



Since the testimony Ms. Fluke intended to give was about her friend's loss of an ovary because she couldn't afford the combined oral contraceptive pill her doctor prescribed to treat her ovarian cyst, it didn't have anything to do with contraception or fornication. Further, no one wants you to bankroll the prescription. They want insurance to cover part of the cost as they do Viagra.


You do realize that married women use contraception. How does that fit into your fornication screed?

Flag REteach March 3, 2012 10:18 AM EST

Women are gradually replacing men in higher education.  Maybe, guys, you will find that what goes around comes around. If men in power think they get to make decisions about women's health care, if women start taking over, what will be the outcome of that role modeling?


Heck, men commit most crimes, including sexual crimes like rape.  If women were in power and in the position to treat men the way men treat women, what might the outcome be?  


It might be wise to work toward partnership instead of keeping women second class citizens. 

Flag REteach March 3, 2012 10:19 AM EST

I guess I am a slut too.  I had a TL and so my husband and I have sex alot without planning to have more kids. Bad me.  Tongue Out


BTW, I gave birth to my last child at a Catholic hospital. The next morning I had to go out in 0 degree weather and go over to the OB's office to get the TL then check back in to the hospital. Christian lovingkindness.  

Flag hamerhas March 3, 2012 10:49 AM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:01AM, TPaine wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 8:39AM, hamerhas wrote:


There other terms more descriptive of someone unmarried, ingaging in prolific fornication so casual , that neither her nor any of the multiple sperm donating fornicators care to take responsibilty for reprecussions of their fornication, but instead want to publically whine that their fornicating should be bankrolled for them by others. I'm sure Rush just wanted to use the kindest term he could.


Bless his heart.



Since the testimony Ms. Fluke intended to give was about her friend's loss of an ovary because she couldn't afford the combined oral contraceptive pill her doctor prescribed to treat her ovarian cyst, it didn't have anything to do with contraception or fornication. Further, no one wants you to bankroll the prescription. They want insurance to cover part of the cost as they do Viagra.


You do realize that married women use contraception. How does that fit into your fornication screed?




Typical liberal dishonest duck & cover tactics.


Just like legalizing marijuana is all about the terminally ill they use like stage props .


Just like  late term abortion is typically used in the interest of the health of the mother.


Dishonest as they day is long.


This is not about contraception , any more than it is about someone's ovary.


From the start it is about laying the ground work for making government health care dictates as


invasive into the personal lives of free people as they can possibly be right from the start.


Once governement weedles its way into control of the sexual


behavior , habits, of americans, as well as forcing other americans who loathe the sleazy


behavior to bankroll the sleaze,  All bets are off.


It is obvious these socialists think they have found the perfect show pony for their stable in


Fluke.


I hope they hang on to this with a death grip.


People are not nearly the ignorant sheep that these socialists think they are.


And with Rush playing them like a fiddle they should continue beating this stone cold dead show


pony of a horse for some time to come.


Rush may need to prod them a couple of more times.




 

Flag Ken March 3, 2012 11:13 AM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:49AM, hamerhas wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:01AM, TPaine wrote:

Since the testimony Ms. Fluke intended to give was about her friend's loss of an ovary because she couldn't afford the combined oral contraceptive pill her doctor prescribed to treat her ovarian cyst, it didn't have anything to do with contraception or fornication. Further, no one wants you to bankroll the prescription. They want insurance to cover part of the cost as they do Viagra.


You do realize that married women use contraception. How does that fit into your fornication screed?




Typical liberal dishonest duck & cover tactics.


And that, I'm afraid, is the sort of thing only an insufferable lout would write. Tpaine responded to your post in a civil and reasonable manner. You are morally obligated to do the same. You do understand what a moral obligation is, don't you?



Flag TemplarS March 3, 2012 11:43 AM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:49AM, hamerhas wrote:



Typical liberal dishonest duck & cover tactics.


 





Liberal duck & cover, huh?



You want to hear about duck and cover? How about the likely Republican nominee?



Here is what  Rick Santorum called Limbaugh's comments:


politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/02...


Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum labeled Rush Limbaugh "absurd" over disparaging remarks from the radio talk show host


"Absurd".   Yup, "Absurd."   Even he gets it.



Now, what about Mr. Romney?


politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/02...


Mitt Romney steered clear of the Rush Limbaugh controversy until Friday evening, even avoiding a CNN reporter earlier in the day, when he addressed the issue after an event in Cleveland.


This guy, who wants to be President, is so paranoid about offending the extreme conservatives, that he can't even give a straightforward answer?  Geeez.




Flag mountain_man March 3, 2012 11:52 AM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:49AM, hamerhas wrote:

Typical liberal dishonest duck & cover tactics.....


Yeah, us Liberals are good at that. We have this dishonest tactic of hiding behind the truth. Regressives, and psychotics, just cannot handle the truth so they hide behind lies. Rush is an example of that; he has not told one truth in his whole career.

Flag Marcion March 3, 2012 12:18 PM EST

Mar 1, 2012 -- 2:17PM, Ken wrote:

Mar 1, 2012 -- 1:03PM, TemplarS wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 12:06PM, Ken wrote:


Rush Limbaugh? Isn't he dead yet? And if not, why not?



Only from the neck up.



Well, Andrew Breitbart is dead in all directions.


Only the most rabid liberals would mention Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Brietbart in the same sentence.


Andrew Brietbart was a reasonabl intelligent individual, he treated his opponents with dignity.


 Limbaugh is a worthless piece of crap who wallows in the mud with the rest of the swine.

Flag Marcion March 3, 2012 12:19 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 5:13AM, Paravani wrote:


Obama just won the election.




The Republicans are giving the election to Obama. Can't they come up with someone better than the current Marx Brothers.

Flag Ken March 3, 2012 12:39 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 12:18PM, Marcion wrote:

Mar 1, 2012 -- 2:17PM, Ken wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 1:03PM, TemplarS wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 12:06PM, Ken wrote:


Rush Limbaugh? Isn't he dead yet? And if not, why not?



Only from the neck up.



Well, Andrew Breitbart is dead in all directions.




Only the most rabid liberals would mention Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Brietbart in the same sentence.


Andrew Brietbart was a reasonabl intelligent individual, he treated his opponents with dignity.


He wasn't and didn't. He was just another loudmouthed nobody driven to flood the media with his worthless opinions.


Mar 3, 2012 -- 12:18PM, Marcion wrote:

Limbaugh is a worthless piece of crap who wallows in the mud with the rest of the swine.



He needs to follow Breitbart's example.

Flag mountain_man March 3, 2012 1:40 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 12:18PM, Marcion wrote:

Only the most rabid liberals would mention Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Brietbart in the same sentence.


Why? Neither can, or could, tell the truth.


Andrew Brietbart was a reasonabl intelligent individual, he treated his opponents with dignity.


Lying about people is treating them with dignity? That's just too bizarre.


Limbaugh is a worthless piece of crap who wallows in the mud with the rest of the swine.


Brietbart was one of those swines. He was just a tool of the GOP that had no morals.

Flag Roodog March 3, 2012 2:20 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 5:13AM, Paravani wrote:


Obama just won the election.





Rush gave the House back to the Democrats as well.

Flag Marcion March 3, 2012 2:34 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 12:39PM, Ken wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 12:18PM, Marcion wrote:

Mar 1, 2012 -- 2:17PM, Ken wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 1:03PM, TemplarS wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 12:06PM, Ken wrote:


Rush Limbaugh? Isn't he dead yet? And if not, why not?



Only from the neck up.



Well, Andrew Breitbart is dead in all directions.




Only the most rabid liberals would mention Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Brietbart in the same sentence.


Andrew Brietbart was a reasonabl intelligent individual, he treated his opponents with dignity.


He wasn't and didn't. He was just another loudmouthed nobody driven to flood the media with his worthless opinions.


Mar 3, 2012 -- 12:18PM, Marcion wrote:

Limbaugh is a worthless piece of crap who wallows in the mud with the rest of the swine.



He needs to follow Breitbart's example.




We are all entitled to our opinions, however opinions are not fact. There are no right or wrong opinions.

Flag Ken March 3, 2012 2:50 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 2:34PM, Marcion wrote:


We are all entitled to our opinions, however opinions are not fact. There are no right or wrong opinions.



Right opinions are facts. Wrong opinions are not. If somebody tells you that the earth is only six thousand years old (and a lot of people on Beliefnet will), are you going to say that their opinion is neither right nor wrong?

Flag mountain_man March 3, 2012 4:33 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 2:34PM, Marcion wrote:

We are all entitled to our opinions, however opinions are not fact. There are no right or wrong opinions.


There are wrong opinions. When an opinion does not match reality; it's wrong. People like Breitbart and Limbaugh are long on wrong opinions, devoid of facts, and have a tenuous grasp on reality. Or, they are in it for the fame and money.

Flag Marcion March 3, 2012 5:20 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 2:50PM, Ken wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 2:34PM, Marcion wrote:


We are all entitled to our opinions, however opinions are not fact. There are no right or wrong opinions.



Right opinions are facts. Wrong opinions are not. If somebody tells you that the earth is only six thousand years old (and a lot of people on Beliefnet will), are you going to say that their opinion is neither right nor wrong?




I don't consider that an opinion only a biased statement. Like the Bozo I worked with who said the Roman Legions were successful because they employed German mercenaries.

Flag mountain_man March 3, 2012 7:47 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 6:51PM, hamerhas wrote:

Typical liberal dishonest duck & cover tactics.


Yeah, to Regressives the truth is a dishonest tactic.


The rest of your post made absolutely no sense at all.


Your hero, Rush, just apologized to Fluke. I have absolutely no doubt the apology was insincere and forced. He, along with other Regressives, are incapable of learning from their mistakes.

Flag Ken March 3, 2012 7:55 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 6:51PM, hamerhas wrote:


Typical liberal dishonest duck & cover tactics.



It gets worse. Now you're repeating yourself.

Flag IreneAdler March 3, 2012 8:28 PM EST


From the article: "My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir," Limbaugh said in the statement. "I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices."


Limbaugh was under pressure to apologize, as advertisers were pulling ads from his show, and prominent Republicans—including the GOP presidential field—condemned his comments.


 


"attempt to be humerous" - no, I think not. Slimeball, you were just plain mean. Own it.


 


Irene.

Flag jane2 March 3, 2012 8:44 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 8:28PM, IreneAdler wrote:



From the article: "My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir," Limbaugh said in the statement. "I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices."


Limbaugh was under pressure to apologize, as advertisers were pulling ads from his show, and prominent Republicans—including the GOP presidential field—condemned his comments.


 


"attempt to be humerous" - no, I think not. Slimeball, you were just plain mean. Own it.


 


Irene.




And as Tpaine pointed out very wrong about Miss Fluke's reason for addressing the panel she did address.




 

Flag rabello March 3, 2012 9:59 PM EST

So the pervert who wants to watch videos of university women engaged in sex finally apologized.   That's too bad because it means he'll be allowed to keep his daily 3-hr propaganda show on the air.  Hopefully the boycott against his employers will continue so that he can finally be put out to pasture.  Once and for all.  Should have happened after he mocked Michael J Fox so viciously.  Can and definitely should happen now.   Maybe he could get a job as the men room's attendant at the Playboy Bunny Club.

Flag Ken March 3, 2012 10:03 PM EST

I don't think his weak apology matters. He defamed her. She can sue him. She should.

Flag jane2 March 3, 2012 10:22 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:03PM, Ken wrote:


I don't think his weak apology matters. He defamed her. She can sue him. She should.




Yes, yes and yes....................

Flag rabello March 3, 2012 11:51 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:03PM, Ken wrote:


I don't think his weak apology matters. He defamed her. She can sue him. She should.





I hope she does sue him.  I also hope he is forced to retire his dirty mouth.  He has been allowed to get away with this kind of ugly thing for too long.  It's up to consumers to get him off the air.  Clear Channel won't do it on its own.

Flag Ebon March 3, 2012 11:59 PM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 7:47PM, mountain_man wrote:

Yeah, to Regressives the truth is a dishonest tactic.



"Reality has a well-known liberal bias"

Flag Do_unto_others March 4, 2012 12:01 AM EST

Mar 1, 2012 -- 1:26PM, Girlchristian wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 12:23PM, mytmouse57 wrote:


I support Rush Limbaugh's right to free speach.


But I don't care a damn about what he has to say. 





Agreed...





GC, the overwhelming sentiment here and elsewhere on the internets reflects our mutual distaste for the man and his spew.


So could you, as a self-admitted conservative, please explain why MILLIONS of your fellow conservatives DO "care a damn about what he has to say"?


It would help us lefties if you could explain the, er, attraction.


Thanks in advance.

Flag Ken March 4, 2012 9:15 AM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 11:51PM, rabello wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:03PM, Ken wrote:


I don't think his weak apology matters. He defamed her. She can sue him. She should.





I hope she does sue him.  I also hope he is forced to retire his dirty mouth.  He has been allowed to get away with this kind of ugly thing for too long.  It's up to consumers to get him off the air.  Clear Channel won't do it on its own.



Clear Channel can also be sued.

Flag TPaine March 4, 2012 10:57 AM EST

Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:49AM, hamerhas wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:01AM, TPaine wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 8:39AM, hamerhas wrote:


There other terms more descriptive of someone unmarried, ingaging in prolific fornication so casual , that neither her nor any of the multiple sperm donating fornicators care to take responsibilty for reprecussions of their fornication, but instead want to publically whine that their fornicating should be bankrolled for them by others. I'm sure Rush just wanted to use the kindest term he could.


Bless his heart.



Since the testimony Ms. Fluke intended to give was about her friend's loss of an ovary because she couldn't afford the combined oral contraceptive pill her doctor prescribed to treat her ovarian cyst, it didn't have anything to do with contraception or fornication. Further, no one wants you to bankroll the prescription. They want insurance to cover part of the cost as they do Viagra.


You do realize that married women use contraception. How does that fit into your fornication screed?



Typical liberal dishonest duck & cover tactics. Just like legalizing marijuana is all about the terminally ill they use like stage props . Just like  late term abortion is typically used in the interest of the health of the mother. Dishonest as they day is long. This is not about contraception , any more than it is about someone's ovary. From the start it is about laying the ground work for making government health care dictates as invasive into the personal lives of free people as they can possibly be right from the start. Once governement weedles its way into control of the sexual behavior , habits, of americans, as well as forcing other americans who loathe the sleazy behavior to bankroll the sleaze,  All bets are off. It is obvious these socialists think they have found the perfect show pony for their stable in Fluke. I hope they hang on to this with a death grip. People are not nearly the ignorant sheep that these socialists think they are. And with Rush playing them like a fiddle they should continue beating this stone cold dead show pony of a horse for some time to come. Rush may need to prod them a couple of more times.



Typical conservative lack of understanding. When they have no logical answer they turn to the "liberal lying" red herring. Legalizing cannabis is not all about the terminally ill. It's a common sense concept that would allow all individuals access to the known medicinal benefits as well as reducing much of the violence created by the "war on drugs." You are correct in one way. This is all about government meddling in peoples personal lives. It involves the government telling doctors what they must tell their patients even to the extent of writing down the words they must use, what procedures they must use even though those procedures are not medically necessary, telling insurance companies what prescriptions they are allowed to cover and which ones they can't. Conservatives want to have the power to tell people what kind of sexual relationships they're allowed to have, who they are allowed to marry, and who can and cannot adopt children. Anyone who believes Sandra Fluke is a show pony hasn't listened to what she had to say. It was the Republicons who had the dog and pony show by refusing to let her testify in their all male hearing on women's health. Rush has a long history of both misogynistic and racist comments during his 3 hour daily screed. I find it interesting that he seems to afraid to debate any talk show host who disagrees with him. He only seems comfortable when he is telling his "ditto-head" sycophants what they are supposed to think. I would pay to watch a debate between Limbaugh and (take your pick) Thom Hartman, Stephanie Miller, Randi Rhodes, Keith Olbermann, Rachael Maddow, or Lawrence O'Donnell.

Flag vra March 4, 2012 3:55 PM EST

Mar 2, 2012 -- 4:31PM, Erey wrote:


 
I think you are conflating the population growth issue with unwanted pregnancy issues.  Those are two different issues.  I am not saying BC does not work, it is clearly a big game-changer in human society.  What I am saying is that our problems of unwanted pregnancies will not disappear or even show significant reduction with free birth control.


I do think it would be a significant reduction IF were were to allow hormone BC available otc.  But that conversation is not even up for consideration.  It is a pain to make an appt, go to the doc and get a screening YEARLY in order to maintain your bc.  That there is probably a bigger deterent to proper BC use than cost. 





Unwanted pregnancies are part of the population growth issue, and we've seen a noticable reduction in teen pregnancies, for example, over the last couple of decades.  With 99% of women, and 98% of Catholic women, using birth control at some point in their lives, this tells me that it is indeed having an effect. 


But I agree with your last paragraph, and it drives me nuts that some doctors just constantly want you to return over and over again.  We've switched doctors a couple of times because of that, and the family doctor we have now, if we call him, will phone or fax in a script, unless it's for something he hasn't yet diagnosed.  


BTW, my wife was on b.c. pills for a couple of decades, so I know what you're saying about these perpetual visitations being a nuisance. 


Take care.   

Flag Girlchristian March 5, 2012 9:02 AM EST

Mar 4, 2012 -- 12:01AM, Do_unto_others wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 1:26PM, Girlchristian wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 12:23PM, mytmouse57 wrote:


I support Rush Limbaugh's right to free speach.


But I don't care a damn about what he has to say. 





Agreed...





GC, the overwhelming sentiment here and elsewhere on the internets reflects our mutual distaste for the man and his spew.


So could you, as a self-admitted conservative, please explain why MILLIONS of your fellow conservatives DO "care a damn about what he has to say"?


It would help us lefties if you could explain the, er, attraction.


Thanks in advance.





I don't know why I'm expected to answer for all conservatives, but here's a guess. There are folks that post here that are on the 'left' that admit they listen to Rush. According to an analysis I read, Rush's audience is 80% conservative, 10% liberal, and 10% independent. I suspect it's for the same reason people watch the Kardashians, or follow Lindsey Lohan's failures, or watch things like Jersey Shore--because the 'ridiculous' sells. Agree with him or not, he's likely far more entertaining than some boring commentator that never says anything shocking. I don't honestly know though as I can say with 100% certainty that I've never listened to him.

Flag Ebon March 5, 2012 10:28 AM EST

Limbaugh hasn't really apologised anyway. It was one of those non-apology apologies where he apologises for the language but not the intent.


Flag Roodog March 5, 2012 10:36 AM EST

Mar 4, 2012 -- 9:15AM, Ken wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 11:51PM, rabello wrote:


Mar 3, 2012 -- 10:03PM, Ken wrote:


I don't think his weak apology matters. He defamed her. She can sue him. She should.





I hope she does sue him.  I also hope he is forced to retire his dirty mouth.  He has been allowed to get away with this kind of ugly thing for too long.  It's up to consumers to get him off the air.  Clear Channel won't do it on its own.



Clear Channel can also be sued.





I hope she can sue the whole lot. Such public scurillity should not go unpunished. Her male relatives should duel Limbaugh to uphold her honor.

Flag vra March 5, 2012 11:11 AM EST

Mar 5, 2012 -- 9:02AM, Girlchristian wrote:

 

I don't know why I'm expected to answer for all conservatives, but here's a guess.



Maybe it's simply wishful thinking in that maybe people like you might someday push the Republican Party back to sanity.


I suspect it's for the same reason people watch the Kardashians, or follow Lindsey Lohan's failures, or watch things like Jersey Shore--because the 'ridiculous' sells.



I call it the "Jerry Springer Effect".  His show was dying until he and the producers decided to push the confrontational, and his ratings shot up wheh they started doing that.  The unfortunate reality is that so many people would rather be entertained than informed, and the more bizarre one is, the more attention they tend to get, and bad publicity has proven to often be better than no publicity at all.    


Agree with him or not, he's likely far more entertaining than some boring commentator that never says anything shocking. I don't honestly know though as I can say with 100% certainty that I've never listened to him.





"Boring", however, can often be very informative.  When Walter Cronkite retired, he warned that t.v. news was becoming too much entertainment with its "personal interest" stories, and not enough real news.


I cannot stand to listen to Limbaugh for a variety of reasons, and it has little to do with his political stances.  He's as arrogant as the day is long, and I have no doubt he's racist, which is a term I almost never charge anyone personally with (remember his song "Barach, the Magic Negro"?; and there's many more quips like that). 


And why would anyone call themselves a "Dittohead", which implies that the best thing they can do is to copy someone because they apparently don't have enough intelligence to think on their own?  Gc, I'm sure you're not one of those, so don't take what I said as referring to you in any way.


To each his own, but I gotta better use for my time than wasting it with him.  

Flag vra March 5, 2012 11:14 AM EST

BTW, according to NBC News last night, six sponsors have already dropped Limbaugh's show and more are considering it. 

Flag Ken March 5, 2012 11:35 AM EST

Mar 5, 2012 -- 10:36AM, Roodog wrote:


Mar 4, 2012 -- 9:15AM, Ken wrote:

Clear Channel can also be sued.





I hope she can sue the whole lot. Such public scurillity should not go unpunished. Her male relatives should duel Limbaugh to uphold her honor.



Unfortunately, they can't do that without degrading themselves. Remember, a gentleman can only challenge another gentleman to a duel, and Limbaugh is not a gentleman. They can, however, send hired underlings to horsewhip him.

Flag Erey March 5, 2012 12:56 PM EST

Mar 4, 2012 -- 12:01AM, Do_unto_others wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 1:26PM, Girlchristian wrote:


Mar 1, 2012 -- 12:23PM, mytmouse57 wrote:


I support Rush Limbaugh's right to free speach.


But I don't care a damn about what he has to say. 





Agreed...





GC, the overwhelming sentiment here and elsewhere on the internets reflects our mutual distaste for the man and his spew.


So could you, as a self-admitted conservative, please explain why MILLIONS of your fellow conservatives DO "care a damn about what he has to say"?


It would help us lefties if you could explain the, er, attraction.


Thanks in advance.




At least half the people that are regular with Limbaugh are liberals.  I never know what he is up to if it were not for the liberals here on these boards.  For the advertizers it does not matter why you tune into the man, love or hate him.  It just matters that you listen.


So you explain that. TIA

Flag Stardove March 5, 2012 2:43 PM EST

Mar 5, 2012 -- 11:14AM, vra wrote:


BTW, according to NBC News last night, six sponsors have already dropped Limbaugh's show and more are considering it. 



I believe the advertisers are listening to those who make purchases.  In my opinion Rush doesn't care what he says or who he hurts with his words.  This could be the beginning of the end for Rush's radio program. (A girl can hope.....can't she?)


Limbaugh Advertisers: We Still Won't Sponsor Rush Anymore (UPDATED)

As the controversy grew over Rush Limbaugh's latest incendiary comments -- he called law student and birth control advocate Sandra Fluke a "slut" on Wednesday -- his show's advertisers began to flee in droves. The Associated Press reported on Sunday that seven companies have backed away from the show.

Mortgage lender Quicken Loans, mattress retailers Sleep Train and Sleep Number, online data backup service provider Carbonite, software maker Citrix Systems Inc., online legal document services company LegalZoom and flower company ProFlowers all pulled ads in reaction to Limbaugh's comments.

On Saturday, Limbaugh apologized for his words directed toward Fluke. But for at least one CEO, that wasn't good enough.


Continued at the link.

Flag Stardove March 5, 2012 3:06 PM EST

When my daughter was younger she was put on birth control, not because she was sexually active, but as a treatment for endometriosis.


Endometriosis overview:



Although there is no cure for endometriosis, treatment can help with pain and infertility. Treatment depends on how severe your symptoms are and whether you have future pregnancy plans. For pain only, any hormone therapy that lowers your body's estrogen levels will shrink endometriosis implants and may reduce pain. To become pregnant, surgery, infertility treatment, or both may help.


Endometriosis symptoms, no pregnancy plans


If you have endometrial pain or bleeding and no immediate plans to become pregnant, birth control hormones (patch, pills, or ring) or anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs) may be all that you need to control pain. Birth control hormones help shrink endometrial tissue and reduce pain for most women. They are also likely to keep endometriosis from getting worse.5 Anti-inflammatories reduce bleeding, inflammation, and pain. Most women can use these medicines safely for the long term with few side effects.


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Flag Ken March 5, 2012 3:09 PM EST

Mar 5, 2012 -- 2:43PM, Stardove wrote:


On Saturday, Limbaugh apologized for his words directed toward Fluke. But for at least one CEO, that wasn't good enough.


Continued at the link.



The problem with his apology is that he didn't apologize for the sentiments he expressed, merely for the words he used to express it. In effect, he said "I still think Ms. Fluke is a slut, but I'm sorry I expressed it directly."

Flag Stardove March 5, 2012 3:12 PM EST

Mar 5, 2012 -- 3:09PM, Ken wrote:


Mar 5, 2012 -- 2:43PM, Stardove wrote:


On Saturday, Limbaugh apologized for his words directed toward Fluke. But for at least one CEO, that wasn't good enough.


Continued at the link.



The problem with his apology is that he didn't apologize for the sentiments he expressed, merely for the words he used to express it. In effect, he said "I still think Ms. Fluke is a slut, but I'm sorry I expressed it directly."



The advertisers who have dropped the show most likely saw his apology the same way you do Ken.

Flag Ken March 5, 2012 3:29 PM EST

Rush is trying to apologize again:


Rush Limbaugh opened his syndicated radio show on Monday by reiterating the weekend apology he had made to Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown law student whom the outspoken host had called a "slut" and "prostitute" for her testimony about contraception the week before.


"I descended to [the left's] level when I used those two words to describe Sandra Fluke," Limbaugh said. "I've always tried to maintain a very high degree of integrity and independence on this program. Nevertheless, those two words were inappropriate. They were uncalled for. They distracted from the point that I was actually trying to make, and I again sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for using those two words to describe her. I do not think she is either of those two words. I did not think last week that she is either of those two words."


news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/limbaugh-no...


This is bizarre. If he didn't think Sandra Fluke was a slut and a prostitute, how did it even enter his mind to call her those names? Is Rush admitting to an episode of insanity?


Rush Limbaugh is a big, fat liar.

Flag costrel March 5, 2012 4:07 PM EST

Mar 5, 2012 -- 3:29PM, Ken wrote:

Rush is trying to apologize again:


Rush Limbaugh opened his syndicated radio show on Monday by reiterating the weekend apology he had made to Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown law student whom the outspoken host had called a "slut" and "prostitute" for her testimony about contraception the week before.


"I descended to [the left's] level when I used those two words to describe Sandra Fluke," Limbaugh said. "I've always tried to maintain a very high degree of integrity and independence on this program. 


In other words, he's saying that those on the left do not have a very high degree of integrity or independence, and he was behaving like a person on the left when he said those terrible things about Sandra Fluke. So as he tries to apologize once again, he  defames people who belong to the left by saying he was momentarily acting like them and momentarily descending to their level. He just can't seem to stop himself from saying critical things about other people, even when he attempts to apologize. 

Flag Ebon March 5, 2012 4:35 PM EST

He's saying "it's not MY fault".

Flag mecdukebec March 5, 2012 4:40 PM EST

Rush, consider the apologia pro suas vitas Wignutas, i.e., "There are no do-overs!" and/or "It's not our fault:  God told us to do it." 

Flag DotNotInOz March 5, 2012 4:54 PM EST

Someone should give him a dictionary. He obviously has no idea what integrity is.

Flag Ken March 5, 2012 5:00 PM EST

Mar 5, 2012 -- 4:07PM, costrel wrote:


Mar 5, 2012 -- 3:29PM, Ken wrote:

Rush is trying to apologize again:


Rush Limbaugh opened his syndicated radio show on Monday by reiterating the weekend apology he had made to Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown law student whom the outspoken host had called a "slut" and "prostitute" for her testimony about contraception the week before.


"I descended to [the left's] level when I used those two words to describe Sandra Fluke," Limbaugh said. "I've always tried to maintain a very high degree of integrity and independence on this program. 


In other words, he's saying that those on the left do not have a very high degree of integrity or independence, and he was behaving like a person on the left when he said those terrible things about Sandra Fluke. So as he tries to apologize once again, he  defames people who belong to the left by saying he was momentarily acting like them and momentarily descending to their level. He just can't seem to stop himself from saying critical things about other people, even when he attempts to apologize. 



I love this. Every time he opens his mouth, he make thing worse. And yet he can't shut up.

Flag jane2 March 5, 2012 5:04 PM EST

Mar 5, 2012 -- 4:54PM, DotNotInOz wrote:


Someone should give him a dictionary. He obviously has no idea what integrity is.




Oh, yes................................

Flag IreneAdler March 5, 2012 6:58 PM EST

Rush- Stop when you first taste the shoe leather.


 


Hush, Rush!


 


Irene.

Flag mountain_man March 5, 2012 7:01 PM EST

Mar 5, 2012 -- 3:29PM, Ken wrote:

Rush is trying to apologize again:


...."I descended to [the left's] level when I .....


This guy is so dishonest and insincere that he has to lie in his "apology." The guy is scum.

Flag mainecaptain March 5, 2012 7:36 PM EST

Mar 5, 2012 -- 7:01PM, mountain_man wrote:


Mar 5, 2012 -- 3:29PM, Ken wrote:

Rush is trying to apologize again:


...."I descended to [the left's] level when I .....


This guy is so dishonest and insincere that he has to lie in his "apology." The guy is scum.




I agree

Flag TPaine March 7, 2012 1:02 PM EST

Rush has lost 43 advertisers and has been dropped by 2 radio stations but he still won't quit. Now he's attacking female investigative journalist Tracie McMillan who wrote the book The American Way of Eating. His comment was, “What is it with all of these young, single, white women, overeducated — doesn’t mean intelligent.” In the past, Limbaugh said women are “emotional” voters unlike men, that women’s lives are “easier” than men’s, that the “feminazi grand plan” is to remove the competitive nature of men, and that women “have neutered the business of politics.” He suggested Danica Patrick is not a great race car driver because she’s female. He referred to a female sports reporter as “boob-alicious, booty-licious,” and called Hillary Clinton the “sex-retary of State.” Link

Flag Girlchristian March 7, 2012 1:06 PM EST

Mar 7, 2012 -- 1:02PM, TPaine wrote:


Rush has lost 43 advertisers and has been dropped by 2 radio stations but he still won't quit. Now he's attacking female investigative journalist Tracie McMillan who wrote the book The American Way of Eating. His comment was, “What is it with all of these young, single, white women, overeducated — doesn’t mean intelligent.” In the past, Limbaugh said women are “emotional” voters unlike men, that women’s lives are “easier” than men’s, that the “feminazi grand plan” is to remove the competitive nature of men, and that women “have neutered the business of politics.” He suggested Danica Patrick is not a great race car driver because she’s female. He referred to a female sports reporter as “boob-alicious, booty-licious,” and called Hillary Clinton the “sex-retary of State.” Link





Rush is a jackass that says things to get attention and increase ratings and it obviously works.

Flag mountain_man March 7, 2012 2:44 PM EST

Rush hates women because none of them would bear his children. I'm glad he has no children. They'd be so messed up.

Flag jane2 March 7, 2012 3:36 PM EST

Mar 7, 2012 -- 2:44PM, mountain_man wrote:


Rush hates women because none of them would bear his children. I'm glad he has no children. They'd be so messed up.




Just for fun : George Brett of the KC Royals has been a sport icon of mine for years--we went to Royals' games for 5yrs--then he was a guest of honor at Rush's latest wedding.....................too sad.........................




 

Flag karbie March 8, 2012 4:03 AM EST

It's a relief to know that so far Rush hasn't become a parent. What I can't understand is why anyone would marry him. He's so infatuated with himself that he could never love anyone else as much.


Perhaps he should marry Ann Coulter. they have a similar grasp of reality.

Flag mainecaptain March 8, 2012 12:28 PM EST

Mar 8, 2012 -- 4:03AM, karbie wrote:


It's a relief to know that so far Rush hasn't become a parent. What I can't understand is why anyone would marry him. He's so infatuated with himself that he could never love anyone else as much.


Perhaps he should marry Ann Coulter. they have a similar grasp of reality.




I would love to see that. (bolding mine)

Flag rocketjsquirell March 8, 2012 1:32 PM EST

I have heard that ashleymadison.com  - the site that encourages people to have affairs - has offered to fill all the advertising slots in Rush's show. Of course, rush has been married 4 times so he might know something about the ashleymaidson's business already. It could be a good fit. :-)  

Flag TPaine March 8, 2012 1:53 PM EST

Mar 8, 2012 -- 12:28PM, mainecaptain wrote:


Mar 8, 2012 -- 4:03AM, karbie wrote:


It's a relief to know that so far Rush hasn't become a parent. What I can't understand is why anyone would marry him. He's so infatuated with himself that he could never love anyone else as much.


Perhaps he should marry Ann Coulter. they have a similar grasp of reality.



I would love to see that. (bolding mine)



Are you sure about that?


Flag mainecaptain March 8, 2012 2:51 PM EST

Mar 8, 2012 -- 1:53PM, TPaine wrote:


Mar 8, 2012 -- 12:28PM, mainecaptain wrote:


Mar 8, 2012 -- 4:03AM, karbie wrote:


It's a relief to know that so far Rush hasn't become a parent. What I can't understand is why anyone would marry him. He's so infatuated with himself that he could never love anyone else as much.


Perhaps he should marry Ann Coulter. they have a similar grasp of reality.



I would love to see that. (bolding mine)



Are you sure about that?





oooo..... maybe not eeewwww

Flag Girlchristian March 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST

Mar 8, 2012 -- 1:32PM, rocketjsquirell wrote:


I have heard that ashleymadison.com  - the site that encourages people to have affairs - has offered to fill all the advertising slots in Rush's show. Of course, rush has been married 4 times so he might know something about the ashleymaidson's business already. It could be a good fit. :-)  




He has refused their offer, news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/limbaugh-as....



...the firebrand talk-show host said that he would never accept their advertising on his radio show.


"We do not [accept] sponsor companies that help people cheat on their spouses," Limbaugh told listeners on Thursday. "We have not accepted [their offer]. We have never run ads from [them]. We never will."


Limbaugh lashed out at Alexandra Petri, a Washington Post columnist, who wrote that Limbaugh's show had picked up AshleyMadison.com, proving that the show "targets jerks."

Flag Erey March 8, 2012 3:47 PM EST

Mar 8, 2012 -- 4:03AM, karbie wrote:


It's a relief to know that so far Rush hasn't become a parent. What I can't understand is why anyone would marry him. He's so infatuated with himself that he could never love anyone else as much.


Perhaps he should marry Ann Coulter. they have a similar grasp of reality.




He is a very rich and powerful man, not too hard to understand.  In addition he is rather clever and I am sure that translates on occasion into charm.  Did I mention that he is tremendously wealthy?

Flag Ken March 8, 2012 4:19 PM EST

Mar 8, 2012 -- 1:53PM, TPaine wrote:


Mar 8, 2012 -- 12:28PM, mainecaptain wrote:


Mar 8, 2012 -- 4:03AM, karbie wrote:


It's a relief to know that so far Rush hasn't become a parent. What I can't understand is why anyone would marry him. He's so infatuated with himself that he could never love anyone else as much.


Perhaps he should marry Ann Coulter. they have a similar grasp of reality.



I would love to see that. (bolding mine)



Are you sure about that?




Don't worry about it. Ann Coulter is fifty years old. She was also born a man.

Flag Girlchristian March 8, 2012 4:24 PM EST

Mar 8, 2012 -- 3:47PM, Erey wrote:


Mar 8, 2012 -- 4:03AM, karbie wrote:


It's a relief to know that so far Rush hasn't become a parent. What I can't understand is why anyone would marry him. He's so infatuated with himself that he could never love anyone else as much.


Perhaps he should marry Ann Coulter. they have a similar grasp of reality.




He is a very rich and powerful man, not too hard to understand.  In addition he is rather clever and I am sure that translates on occasion into charm.  Did I mention that he is tremendously wealthy?




Most jerks have a good side so it's really not that hard to understand.

Flag karbie March 9, 2012 12:21 AM EST

I dated a very wealthy man, and I could have married him. The problem was that it meant that I'd have to let him touch me.  He was engaged to someone else by the time I was engaged to the man I've been married to for almost 35 years. I knew the woman he was marrying and she was in love with his money.


Of course Rush can be charming. I just don't see him being able to keep it up for very long. His ego needs someone who can  accept that he's never wrong. So the requirements would be willing to submerge your own opinions, look good so that he can have a trophy wife. If money were enough, he wouldn't be repeating the same course.


What's really amusing is that he won't accept advertisisng from an organization that encourages people to be jerks. Who does he think his is his main audience?

Flag IreneAdler March 9, 2012 6:50 AM EST

I would imagine having kids would not be on Slimeball’s agenda.  Kids require one to focus the attention on them-even the ones shunted off to the nanny for rearin’. His extreme self-centeredness wouldn’t allow the focus to be on anyone other than himself.  Probably the one good thing about those with excessive egos.


 


Irene

Flag Stardove March 12, 2012 4:22 PM EDT
Flag TemplarS March 12, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

Mar 12, 2012 -- 4:22PM, Stardove wrote:


A public service campaign that disses Rush Limbaugh and sells safe sex hopes to cause a sensation. Sir Richard's Condoms has conceived a "Sluts Unite" website and social media drive to promote healthy nookie while mocking Limbaugh's infamous "slut" insult of law student Sandra Fluke.

The campaign calls on supporters to choose from a menu of social media avatars such as "I Believe In Slut" and "Pro-Slut."


 




Well, you know, I get it, and I suppose so do most people, but I'll bet there are going to be a bunch of people who hear about this and say "Yup, I knew it, Rush was right..."

Flag jane2 March 12, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

Mar 12, 2012 -- 5:03PM, TemplarS wrote:


Mar 12, 2012 -- 4:22PM, Stardove wrote:


A public service campaign that disses Rush Limbaugh and sells safe sex hopes to cause a sensation. Sir Richard's Condoms has conceived a "Sluts Unite" website and social media drive to promote healthy nookie while mocking Limbaugh's infamous "slut" insult of law student Sandra Fluke.

The campaign calls on supporters to choose from a menu of social media avatars such as "I Believe In Slut" and "Pro-Slut."


 




Well, you know, I get it, and I suppose so do most people, but I'll bet there are going to be a bunch of people who hear about this and say "Yup, I knew it, Rush was right..."




Indeed...............................




 

Flag REteach March 12, 2012 8:27 PM EDT

The "religious" "right". They want all kids to be born and they don't give a crap about them after they are here. 

Flag jane2 March 12, 2012 8:33 PM EDT

Mar 12, 2012 -- 8:27PM, REteach wrote:


The "religious" "right". They want all kids to be born and they don't give a crap about them after they are here. 




Makes me truly wonder, RE.

Flag mountain_man March 12, 2012 8:50 PM EDT

Mar 12, 2012 -- 8:27PM, REteach wrote:

The "religious" "right". They want all kids to be born and they don't give a crap about them after they are here.


All they read in their bible is the "go forth and multiply" bit. They neglect the "go forth and care" part.

Flag TPaine March 13, 2012 11:50 AM EDT

Mar 12, 2012 -- 8:27PM, REteach wrote:


The "religious" "right". They want all kids to be born and they don't give a crap about them after they are here.



I find it interesting that many of the politicians that push "personhood" laws that would ban most types of female contraceptives are the same politicians that want to eliminate the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), the National School Lunch Program, and the Vaccines for Children Program (VFC).

Flag TemplarS March 13, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

Mar 12, 2012 -- 8:50PM, mountain_man wrote:


Mar 12, 2012 -- 8:27PM, REteach wrote:

The "religious" "right". They want all kids to be born and they don't give a crap about them after they are here.


All they read in their bible is the "go forth and multiply" bit. They neglect the "go forth and care" part.




Actually, it's more the "thou shalt not" part.


To wit:


"Thou shalt not have sex:"


1) If you're gay


2) If you have no intention of making babies


3) If you're not married


4) et cetera et cetera et cetera


 


 


 


 


 


 




 

Flag Douglas_macneill March 13, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

Aren't we forgetting something?


A central point of the testimony presented by Sandra Fluke--once she was allowed to address Congress--was that there can be--indeed, there actually are--women who use contraception for a bona fide medical purpose.  Mr. Limbaugh lives down to his name when he makes a rush to judgment about the sexual morals of women like Ms. Fluke without hearing her out.  If private health care plans are prepared to pay for the needles that a diabetic uses to inject insulin, they should be prepared to pay the cost of birth control pills too.

Flag mainecaptain March 13, 2012 10:59 PM EDT

Mar 13, 2012 -- 11:50AM, TPaine wrote:


Mar 12, 2012 -- 8:27PM, REteach wrote:


The "religious" "right". They want all kids to be born and they don't give a crap about them after they are here.



I find it interesting that many of the politicians that push "personhood" laws that would ban most types of female contraceptives are the same politicians that want to eliminate the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), the National School Lunch Program, and the Vaccines for Children Program (VFC).




That is the thing I find so amazing, not surprising but amazing. Shows they stop being pro-life the minute a child is born. They do not care about the child. They care about the control they perceive they have over people, particularly female people. It give them jollies knowing they can control every part of another human beings life.


Including sex life.


The internal vaginal probes are rape by proxy, and I bet that give those in favour of it, a sick thrill as well.


It is about power and control. Not people, not humanity.


Flag mountain_man March 14, 2012 12:05 AM EDT

Mar 13, 2012 -- 10:59PM, mainecaptain wrote:

That is the thing I find so amazing, not surprising but amazing. Shows they stop being pro-life the minute a child is born. They do not care about the child.


That's why the proper term for them is "pro birth" and not "pro life."


They care about the control they perceive they have over people, particularly female people. It give them jollies knowing they can control every part of another human beings life.


Including sex life.


They're just sick people.


The internal vaginal probes are rape by proxy, and I bet that give those in favour of it, a sick thrill as well.


It is about power and control. Not people, not humanity.


Ah, but the women are getting back. Some female politicians have introduced state legislation to reduce access to Viagra.  I think they should have a state mandated colonoscopy for every 30 day prescription.

Flag mainecaptain March 14, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

Thank you Mountain Man, (may I call you Dave?) For understanding my position and I agree with your post. :)



Especially the "pro-birth verse pro life" They are not pro life at all. Just pro birth, The pro life moniker is used because it is better press. As you already know :)

Flag Girlchristian March 14, 2012 12:44 PM EDT

Mar 13, 2012 -- 11:50AM, TPaine wrote:


Mar 12, 2012 -- 8:27PM, REteach wrote:


The "religious" "right". They want all kids to be born and they don't give a crap about them after they are here.



I find it interesting that many of the politicians that push "personhood" laws that would ban most types of female contraceptives are the same politicians that want to eliminate the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), the National School Lunch Program, and the Vaccines for Children Program (VFC).




It's hypocritical for sure. (It's no more hypocritical than those liberals that would push for personhood for a whale and not even consider it for a human fetus, IMO.) I don't support such 'personhood' laws for whales or fetuses.


But, I am pro-life and I support all of the programs you mentioned above. Making blanket statements about the "religious" "right" is silly and shows an inability to think critically or take each person for what they personally believe or think (I know that statement wasn't yours...).

Flag costrel March 14, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

Mar 14, 2012 -- 12:44PM, Girlchristian wrote:

But, I am pro-life and I support all of the programs you mentioned above. Making blanket statements about the "religious" "right" is silly and shows an inability to think critically or take each person for what they personally believe or think (I know that statement wasn't yours...).


Does your "pro-life" stance mean a rejection of contraception and abortion, or just abortion? Until a few weeks ago, I thought that only Catholic Christians considered a rejection of contraception to be an integral part of being pro-life, but the discussions on the U.S. News and Politics Board during the last couple of weeks seem to demonstrate that there are a number of Protestant Christians who also reject contraception. 

Flag Girlchristian March 14, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

Mar 14, 2012 -- 1:20PM, costrel wrote:


Mar 14, 2012 -- 12:44PM, Girlchristian wrote:

But, I am pro-life and I support all of the programs you mentioned above. Making blanket statements about the "religious" "right" is silly and shows an inability to think critically or take each person for what they personally believe or think (I know that statement wasn't yours...).


Does your "pro-life" stance mean a rejection of contraception and abortion, or just abortion? Until a few weeks ago, I thought that only Catholic Christians considered a rejection of contraception to be an integral part of being pro-life, but the discussions on the U.S. News and Politics Board during the last couple of weeks seem to demonstrate that there are a number of Protestant Christians who also reject contraception. 




Just abortion.

Flag TemplarS March 14, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

Mar 14, 2012 -- 1:20PM, costrel wrote:


 Until a few weeks ago, I thought that only Catholic Christians considered a rejection of contraception to be an integral part of being pro-life, but the discussions on the U.S. News and Politics Board during the last couple of weeks seem to demonstrate that there are a number of Protestant Christians who also reject contraception. 





Correction: not Catholic Christians (the vast majority of them), but  Church leadership.


As for Protestants who feel similarly: it is a mixture of those who ignorantly lump all contraception in with the so-called "morning after" pill which they consider the equivalent of abortion;  those who (Limbaugh is the poster boy) think contraception is the gateway to unlimited sex and sin; and those who think anything proposed by any Democrat is Satanic on the face of it, no further discussion needed. 


 

Flag costrel March 14, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

Mar 14, 2012 -- 1:33PM, TemplarS wrote:

Correction: not Catholic Christians (the vast majority of them), but  Church leadership.


As for Protestants who feel similarly: it is a mixture of those who ignorantly lump all contraception in with the so-called "morning after" pill which they consider the equivalent of abortion;  those who (Limbaugh is the poster boy) think contraception is the gateway to unlimited sex and sin; and those who think anything proposed by any Democrat is Satanic on the face of it, no further discussion needed. 


Thank you for that correction, Templar. I realized that I shouldn't have said "Catholic Christians" but rather "Catholic hierarchy," but I was too lazy to edit the post. 


And I do agree with the three reasons that you have presented for why certain Protestants reject contraception. I have certainly seen evidence of the 2nd and 3rd reasons here on Beliefnet, and even though I can't recall ever seeing evidence of the 1st reason here on Beliefnet, I do not doubt its accuracy either. 


Flag Roodog March 14, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

What does s**t mean?


Floozie or Feces?


Mypoint is that there is another 4 letter "s" word.

Flag mountain_man March 14, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

Mar 14, 2012 -- 12:34PM, mainecaptain wrote:

Thank you Mountain Man, (may I call you Dave?) For understanding my position and I agree with your post. :)


Of course, Dave (or David) is my real name.


Especially the "pro-birth verse pro life" They are not pro life at all. Just pro birth, The pro life moniker is used because it is better press. As you already know :)


It's the truth.  As I Humanist I care about the people that are here. We need to take better care of the babies we already have, not force women to make more. I have two daughters and 4 grand daughters. I fight for their rights and protection.

Flag farragut March 14, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

Two and four, as do I . I also have a son and one grandson. We must protect them all from foolish governance.

Flag mountain_man March 14, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

Mar 14, 2012 -- 12:44PM, Girlchristian wrote:

It's hypocritical for sure. (It's no more hypocritical than those liberals that would push for personhood for a whale and not even consider it for a human fetus, IMO.) I don't support such 'personhood' laws for whales or fetuses.


Maybe not you, but many that claim to be "pro life" do... at least for human fetesus anyway. It gets politicians votes.


But, I am pro-life and I support all of the programs you mentioned above. Making blanket statements about the "religious" "right" is silly and shows an inability to think critically or take each person for what they personally believe or think (I know that statement wasn't yours...).


I, and most other people I know, are actually pro life in that we are for supporting those already living. Even though I can't find one that is willing to put up with me, I am pro woman. Everyone will agree that abortion is not a pleasant thing and that the vast majority of woman making that choice have agonized over it. Since I am pro woman; forcing a woman to continue a pregnancy against her will is the greater evil. The Religious Right - as part of the definition of that term - cannot, absolutely cannot, allow that women have a right to control over her own body.

Flag karbie March 15, 2012 1:59 AM EDT

If women were given the information about how to prevent pregnancy and allowed access to birth control, the need for abortions would go down. The morning after pill won't abort a pregnancy, but it can prevent one if taken soon enough.


I was on birth control in my teens for medical reasons other than being a "slut". My periods were severe enough that I lost at least one day of school a month. I wasn't thrilled with the 13-16 days, either. I told the doctor I'd gotten desperate enough to get into my mother's paregoric. It had been going on long enough it was obviously an established pattern, so I got bc pills. It was a major improvement in my life. (According to my parents, it was an improvement in theirs as well...)


The thing that gets me with many of the pro-birthers is that they are more concerned with the potential life a woman is carrying than the incubator herself.  There is no guarantee that every pregnancy will result in a live birth. Or that every woman was born to be a good mother, for that matter. I was lucky but I had friends who weren't.


If you ask me, I think Mrs. Limbaugh did a little too well on protecting Rush's massive ego and left out the bits about having the facts straight before you bent them out of recognition. He's a great argument for birth control.

Flag Roodog March 15, 2012 2:02 AM EDT

Mar 15, 2012 -- 1:59AM, karbie wrote:


If women were given the information about how to prevent pregnancy and allowed access to birth control, the need for abortions would go down. The morning after pill won't abort a pregnancy, but it can prevent one if taken soon enough.


I was on birth control in my teens for medical reasons other than being a "slut". My periods were severe enough that I lost at least one day of school a month. I wasn't thrilled with the 13-16 days, either. I told the doctor I'd gotten desperate enough to get into my mother's paregoric. It had been going on long enough it was obviously an established pattern, so I got bc pills. It was a major improvement in my life. (According to my parents, it was an improvement in theirs as well...)


The thing that gets me with many of the pro-birthers is that they are more concerned with the potential life a woman is carrying than the incubator herself.  There is no guarantee that every pregnancy will result in a live birth. Or that every woman was born to be a good mother, for that matter. I was lucky but I had friends who weren't.


If you ask me, I think Mrs. Limbaugh did a little too well on protecting Rush's massive ego and left out the bits about having the facts straight before you bent them out of recognition. He's a great argument for birth control.





Which  Mrs. Limbaugh? 1,2,3 or 4?


 Maybe his mom?

Flag karbie March 15, 2012 2:14 AM EDT

His mother...after all, unlike his ex-wives, she can't get alimony. Or even palimony. She can't even brag about him because he probably does it himself.

Flag Stardove March 15, 2012 9:07 PM EDT

In case you are not following the Rush's sponsor thread. 


This is part of what I wrote at the other thread:


Would anyone care to read what Sandra Fluke actually had to say???


Here is the LINK to the transcript.


For more of my post see the other thread.

Flag jane2 March 15, 2012 10:00 PM EDT

Mar 15, 2012 -- 9:07PM, Stardove wrote:


In case you are not following the Rush's sponsor thread. 


This is part of what I wrote at the other thread:


Would anyone care to read what Sandra Fluke actually had to say???


Here is the LINK to the transcript.


For more of my post see the other thread.




Star


Much of this is really old news. Some of us actully knew from the beginning what motivated Sandra Fluke--she's a law student at Georgetown.


Not trying to be snarky................Perhaps some here weren't up to speed.


 




 

Flag Stardove March 15, 2012 11:10 PM EDT

Jane,


I'm sure there are members reading and posting who did not bother to even find out what Sandra really had to say which is why I gave them a link.


Nothing like reading to see what Limbaugh said was totally a lie.  As long as the thread is here we can post.  After a week of no posts the thread will be moved.  Star

Flag river8101 March 23, 2012 7:43 AM EDT

His right to "so called" freedom of speech does not give him the right to lie and insult a young woman on the radio.  People who enjoy listening to his sick radio verbal abuse are no better than he is. 

Flag mainecaptain March 23, 2012 4:07 PM EDT

Mar 23, 2012 -- 7:43AM, river8101 wrote:


His right to "so called" freedom of speech does not give him the right to lie and insult a young woman on the radio.  People who enjoy listening to his sick radio verbal abuse are no better than he is. 




I agree, because he would not be in business at all, if people (his listeners) did not want him to say such disgusting things.

Flag loveontheair March 23, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

Mar 15, 2012 -- 10:00PM, jane2 wrote:


Mar 15, 2012 -- 9:07PM, Stardove wrote:


In case you are not following the Rush's sponsor thread. 


This is part of what I wrote at the other thread:


Would anyone care to read what Sandra Fluke actually had to say???


Here is the LINK to the transcript.


For more of my post see the other thread.




Star


Much of this is really old news. Some of us actully knew from the beginning what motivated Sandra Fluke--she's a law student at Georgetown.


Not trying to be snarky................Perhaps some here weren't up to speed.


 




 





Hello,



+1



love

Flag Fodaoson March 23, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

Mar 15, 2012 -- 10:00PM, jane2 wrote:


Mar 15, 2012 -- 9:07PM, Stardove wrote:


In case you are not following the Rush's sponsor thread. 


This is part of what I wrote at the other thread:


Would anyone care to read what Sandra Fluke actually had to say???


Here is the LINK to the transcript.


For more of my post see the other thread.




Star


Much of this is really old news. Some of us actully knew from the beginning what motivated Sandra Fluke--she's a law student at Georgetown.


Not trying to be snarky................Perhaps some here weren't up to speed.


 


 




Some here appear to be willfully ignorant, some are just ordinarily ignorant, and some are just willfully stupid.  Present company excepted 

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