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3 months ago ::
Mar 01, 2012 - 10:18PM
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This thread was moved from the Hot Topics Zone
Conservative, Libertarian, Life member of the NRA and VFW
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3 months ago ::
Feb 24, 2012 - 9:39AM
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BDboy
Those of us who live outside the State of Israel are living in the gallut - in exile. While it is not possible (and maybe not advisable) for all Jews to live in Israel, Israel is the "natural" home of the Jewish people who are the native population of the place and who have been the only people living there continuously throughout recorded history.
>>>>>>>> Thank you. I don't mind people having their own theory but in 21st century, it starts problem when such theory causes oppression on native non-Jews. As I mentioned earlier, any scientific examination will reveal that, forefathers of many non-Jews in Palestine walked with Jesus and Moses in Biblical time. Today they face discrimination because ( at some point of time their forefathers) converted to Christianity and Islam. Which makes an Indian (From South east asian Jew near China/Myanmer) a "Natural" citizen of "Jewish Israel" but makes native non-Jews "Un-natural". Had it been Norway doing or even saying (Or promoting) anything near fanatic "Theory", I would have seen a very different Rocket. :-) I am little concern with the last part of the theory where you "CLAIMED" that Jews are the "ONLY" people with natural home in Palestine. This caused a lot of destruction on Jews and non-jews alike. Maybe a little reflection is needed. Wish you have a nice day!!
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3 months ago ::
Feb 20, 2012 - 9:50AM
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BDboy
Those of us who live outside the State of Israel are living in the gallut - in exile. While it is not possible (and maybe not advisable) for all Jews to live in Israel, Israel is the "natural" home of the Jewish people who are the native population of the place and who have been the only people living there continuously throughout recorded history.
Anyone who is born in a place is native to that place.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 20, 2012 - 9:40AM
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BDboy Those of us who live outside the State of Israel are living in the gallut - in exile. While it is not possible (and maybe not advisable) for all Jews to live in Israel, Israel is the "natural" home of the Jewish people who are the native population of the place and who have been the only people living there continuously throughout recorded history.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 19, 2012 - 3:23PM
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In a word, yes. A Jew anywhere else is not in his natural environment.
Are you saying that Jews aren't human?
No, but they have a special task in the world.
And it is best done in the Holy Land.
Anywhere else is "ex-post-facto", or as we say בדיעבד
Of course, this is all in theory, and I cannot say that the Israelis are doing a bang-up job of it, but it's at least a start in the right direction.
>>>>>>>>> Care to educate us a bit more about this "Special task"?
I always wondered about it, why not California (Land of milk and honey), Why not New York (A welcoming place), why not Florida?
Help us understand..
I will be glad to. We can continue the thread in the Judaism forum, where it properly belongs.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 19, 2012 - 3:04PM
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After pursuing anti-semitic and anti-Israel policies and promoting anti-semitism and being generally hostile to Jews for at least the last 1/2 century Norwegians are afraid that Norway might lose its Jewish population. Really? Who would have thought that could happen?
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full article:
www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Art...
Serves 'em right.
But in truth, Jews don't belong there anyway.
They belong in Israel.
Jewish people belong where ever the individual Jewish person says they belong
And at the conclusion of the Seder they say: "Next year in Jerusalem"
The devil can quote Scripture for his purpose; and the text of Scripture which he now most commonly quotes is, “The Kingdom of heaven is within you.” That text has been the stay and support of more Pharisees and prigs and self-righteous spiritual bullies than all the dogmas in creation; it has served to identify self-satisfaction with the peace that passes all understanding.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 19, 2012 - 12:51PM
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In a word, yes.
A Jew anywhere else is not in his natural environment.
Are you saying that Jews aren't human?
No, but they have a special task in the world.
And it is best done in the Holy Land.
Anywhere else is "ex-post-facto", or as we say בדיעבד
Of course, this is all in theory, and I cannot say that the Israelis are doing a bang-up job of it, but it's at least a start in the right direction.
>>>>>>>>> Care to educate us a bit more about this "Special task"? I always wondered about it, why not California (Land of milk and honey), Why not New York (A welcoming place), why not Florida? Help us understand..
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3 months ago ::
Feb 19, 2012 - 10:41AM
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In a word, yes.
A Jew anywhere else is not in his natural environment.
Are you saying that Jews aren't human?
No, but they have a special task in the world. And it is best done in the Holy Land. Anywhere else is "ex-post-facto", or as we say בדיעבד Of course, this is all in theory, and I cannot say that the Israelis are doing a bang-up job of it, but it's at least a start in the right direction.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 19, 2012 - 9:24AM
#16
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In a word, yes.
A Jew anywhere else is not in his natural environment.
Are you saying that Jews aren't human? The natural environment for any human being is an environment that will support human life. I'd be very surprised if the same isn't true for Jews. All of my ancestors were from the British Isles, yet I survive quite comfortably in North America. According to you, I should be dead.
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3 months ago ::
Feb 19, 2012 - 9:05AM
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In a word, yes.
A Jew anywhere else is not in his natural environment.
Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel) is his or her or their natural environment. Anywhere else is exile.
Thank you. My second question was How about native Arabs who lived in that land for hundreds of years. Are they "Natural"?
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