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JC Penney Won't Fire Ellen Degeneres
4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 11:18PM #44
Erey
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Gosh, here is Ellen Degeneres herself using the term "lifestyle"  in connection with being gay.


Ellen replied  “I heard -- watching you last night, it's the first I heard of it. And I couldn't believe it. I mean, I -- you know, there are going to be people that don't understand “DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES, WHETHER IT BE HOMOSEXUAL OR ANYTHING ELSE”, that there are going to be people who don't understand it, and there are going to be people who are hateful. - transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1010/28/...



Gosh DUTO - I guess you can now preach to Ellen too?  Tell her how dumb she is also?

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 9:55PM #43
Erey
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Clearly someone forgot to send the memo to the uber-progressive Huffington Post


www.huffingtonpost.com/domenick-scudera/...


The whole area of their online magazine is littered with the term "gay lifestyle"


Oh the barbarity of it all! 


Oh, I guess Wired Magazine is not so hip and cool anymore?  They are so last week with using the term "gay lifestyle"


www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/200...


Oh and here is a highly insensitive Gay activist with his inappropriate use of the term "lifestyle"  Gasp, cough


www.whatisyourgay.com/




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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 9:51PM #42
Do_unto_others
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Feb 14, 2012 -- 9:46PM, Erey wrote:


Feb 14, 2012 -- 9:38PM, Do_unto_others wrote:


It is purposely used by anti-equality folk to reduce, diminish, demean, debase and de-humanize homosexual people. We aren't allowed to have actual lives. We ONLY have "the gay lifestyle" (i.e. our lives are ruled by gay sex, not human relationships.


No one I know who is justice-minded, equality-seeking ever uses the term. It's been debunked myriad times in all corners of the blogosphere. Sorry you had no idea.




You are welcome to see it that way, and you are welcome to have an "offended lifestyle"  Afterall you are probably offended more than anything else.


It is STILL a term used regularly in and for the gay community.  Why?  because it is a perfectly fine word.



I hardly see demeaning and chastising people as you have done as being "justice minded" or seeking "equailty". In fact, something much more ego centered seems to be motivating you. I don't get any real concern for justice at all.


I don't mind sincere and humble comments about pet peeves but I abhoor people that try to be abusive because they read a few extra oppinion articles.  "Oh, you still use the word LIFESTYLE, how 2011!"





Erey, you are welcome to believe what you typed. I'm not "offended" by your believing it. But I do not know a single gay person who uses "lifestyle" at all, let alone "regularly". Certainly not since about 1961, and it was as false then as it is now.


 


Have a nice life(style).

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 9:46PM #41
Erey
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Feb 14, 2012 -- 9:38PM, Do_unto_others wrote:


It is purposely used by anti-equality folk to reduce, diminish, demean, debase and de-humanize homosexual people. We aren't allowed to have actual lives. We ONLY have "the gay lifestyle" (i.e. our lives are ruled by gay sex, not human relationships.


No one I know who is justice-minded, equality-seeking ever uses the term. It's been debunked myriad times in all corners of the blogosphere. Sorry you had no idea.




You are welcome to see it that way, and you are welcome to have an "offended lifestyle"  Afterall you are probably offended more than anything else.


It is STILL a term used regularly in and for the gay community.  Why?  because it is a perfectly fine word.



I hardly see demeaning and chastising people as you have done as being "justice minded" or seeking "equailty". In fact, something much more ego centered seems to be motivating you. I don't get any real concern for justice at all.


I don't mind sincere and humble comments about pet peeves but I abhoor people that try to be abusive because they read a few extra oppinion articles.  "Oh, you still use the word LIFESTYLE, how 2011!"

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 9:38PM #40
Do_unto_others
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It is purposely used by anti-equality folk to reduce, diminish, demean, debase and de-humanize homosexual people. We aren't allowed to have actual lives. We ONLY have "the gay lifestyle" (i.e. our lives are ruled by gay sex, not human relationships.


No one I know who is justice-minded, equality-seeking ever uses the term. It's been debunked myriad times in all corners of the blogosphere. Sorry you had no idea.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 14, 2012 - 9:34PM #39
Erey
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I had no flipping idea either that the term "lifestyle" was horribly offensive.  In fact, I don't believe it truly is offensive to rational and reasonable people. I think it is offensive to those who like and enjoy and regularly persue opportunities to be offended.  Perhaps the term is a bit dated and obsolete?  I might go along with that.   But apparently petty superiority is still quite in vouge. 

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 09, 2012 - 5:56PM #38
IreneAdler
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Feb 9, 2012 -- 2:43PM, Do_unto_others wrote:


Feb 3, 2012 -- 5:33PM, IreneAdler wrote:


How very Anita Bryant of them.


 Exactly how does the sexual orientation of a company spokesperson affect one's purchases?


Irene.





It doesn't. Or at least, it certainly shouldn't.


But I think you have things reversed. Ms Bryant was AGAINST equality. J C Penney's move was in favor of it. How is it "very Anita Bryant of them"???





I meant to refer to the One Million Moms group.  But I see that I wasn't very plain here.


My bad. Thanks for pointing that out.


Irene.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 09, 2012 - 3:31PM #37
Do_unto_others
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Feb 8, 2012 -- 2:19PM, Roodog wrote:


Feb 8, 2012 -- 2:07PM, Yavanna wrote:


Feb 8, 2012 -- 12:05AM, Roodog wrote:


My wife will watch Ellen Degeneres on TV and I will some times watch the show. Her love life is none of my business and I will ignore any references to her lifestyle that are made.


Those of you who support her can engage in a "buycott" as opposed to a boycott. Support her sponsors by going out your way to shop with her sponsors.




Honestly, use of the word "lifestyle" directed at the LGBT community should be a violation of the posting rules, as it is heinously offensive to the group it targets.





I was not aware that "lifestyle" was that politcally charged.  I am merely stating how a person lives is really quite their own business.





Roo, if you weren't "aware", then you're pretty unaware. It gets refuted almost every time it appears. It is a favorite attempt at a slur from the soi-disant 'religious' 'right', as in "the homosexual lifestyle". They want people to think of the gay community as ONLY sexual beings, who's lives are ruled by sex, filled with sex, focused exclusively on sex instead of the true meaning (which you did get): "how a person lives".


I am not having sex as I type this. And Ellen is not having sex while she hosts her TV show or when she speaks out as a spokesperson for J C Penney. It is, as you correctly surmise, irrelevant to how she does her job.


There's a difference. And calling our lives a "lifestyle" is demeaning, diminishing and debasing. Which is, of course, their intent when they use it.


Glad I could help clear that up.

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 09, 2012 - 3:30PM #36
Ebon
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Makes me wish we had JC Penny over here so I could give them some business for doing the right thing.

He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. ~ Proverbs 14:31

Fiat justitia ruat caelum

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 09, 2012 - 3:28PM #35
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Feb 9, 2012 -- 2:46PM, Do_unto_others wrote:


Feb 3, 2012 -- 8:14PM, TemplarS wrote:


Well, I certainly don't care who Ellen De Generes sleeps with either.


But she's sure not going to influence me to buy anyone's products.  Fact is, I just don't find her very funny anymore.   Now that I think about it, I can't think of any celebrities, funny or not, who are going to influence me to buy a product.  Waste of advertising dollars so far as I am concerned.  Another example of rich and famous people getting paid big bucks for doing jacks__t.   And another good case in favor of taxing the rich.






Maybe you should go have a funnybone implant. I just watched the clip of her rebuttal to the 40,000 moms and in the 4 minutes and 27 seconds, had seven LOLs, 4 hearty chuckles and 2 wry smiles. As did my husband, who hadn't even heard it before.




Don't know if this has been posted, but here is the clip for those that want to see Ellen's rebuttal. I thought it was very well done and funny.


thedailywh.at/2012/02/07/rebuttal-of-the...




 

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