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3 months ago  ::  Mar 01, 2012 - 3:34PM #301
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3 months ago  ::  Feb 21, 2012 - 8:53PM #300
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Hi, Christine -


That is a really, really good link!  Thanks so much for posting it.  Obviously, if you want to avoid sugar, carrots and strawberries are the way to go.  But I never realised that Cheerios and Special K were so very low in sugar.  Those drinks were really high, though.


 


 

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 21, 2012 - 7:18PM #299
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I don't know if this has been posted.


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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 5:00PM #298
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Feb 20, 2012 -- 4:41PM, IreneAdler wrote:

Yep!


Way to go , guy!


Thanks, it's taken almost a year to lose 25 pounds. But the weight is staying off. No ups or downs, just a steady downward trend. That's the healthy way to lose weight. Too fast is not good since your body will consume your innards and your heart BEFORE it starts in on the fat.


Also, as your body changes so does your metabolism. Once you reach a certain level, a plateau, you have to up the exercise or cut down even more on the portions. The important thing is to know your body.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 4:41PM #297
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Feb 20, 2012 -- 4:03PM, mountain_man wrote:


Feb 20, 2012 -- 3:35PM, IreneAdler wrote:

Very astute statement here.  While there have been successes in losing pounds with various diets (Atkins, South Beach, etc.), such ‘diets’ lull one into the belief one need not think about one’s eating plan. Especially post-weight loss.  Keeping the weight off is about changes to one’s eating habits and not about a temporary change in menu to drop pounds with a return to previous eating habits (which caused the weight to appear in the first place). And really, do folks go on these ‘diets’ with the expectation of losing and then regaining the pounds? Noooo.  Yet they are looked at as the solution to the excess pounds. No, the solution to the excess pounds is a sensible eating plan that one can maintain every day.


That along with more exercise. I've been losing weight by changing my eating habits, not by going on a special weight loss diet. That's the only way to lose weight and keep it off; food and lifestyle changes.





Yep!


Way to go , guy!


 


Irene

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 4:03PM #296
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Feb 20, 2012 -- 3:35PM, IreneAdler wrote:

Very astute statement here.  While there have been successes in losing pounds with various diets (Atkins, South Beach, etc.), such ‘diets’ lull one into the belief one need not think about one’s eating plan. Especially post-weight loss.  Keeping the weight off is about changes to one’s eating habits and not about a temporary change in menu to drop pounds with a return to previous eating habits (which caused the weight to appear in the first place). And really, do folks go on these ‘diets’ with the expectation of losing and then regaining the pounds? Noooo.  Yet they are looked at as the solution to the excess pounds. No, the solution to the excess pounds is a sensible eating plan that one can maintain every day.


That along with more exercise. I've been losing weight by changing my eating habits, not by going on a special weight loss diet. That's the only way to lose weight and keep it off; food and lifestyle changes.

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 3:53PM #295
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Feb 20, 2012 -- 3:01PM, mountain_man wrote:


That's only because the sugar haters have started to listen to reason.




There is no poster on this thread who is a "sugar hater".


Feb 20, 2012 -- 3:01PM, mountain_man wrote:


Saying sugar is bad but you can eat anything else you want, is not good enough for any reasonable person.




Nobody on this thread ever said any such thing. 


Feb 20, 2012 -- 3:01PM, mountain_man wrote:


Saying sugar should be criminalized is not something that would come from a reputable scientist.




No one on this thread, and the researchers whose work is the subject of this thread ever said any such thing.   "Criminalized" ???  Talk about "hyperbolic"!!!  Plus, what you said is a bald-faced lie.


Feb 20, 2012 -- 3:01PM, mountain_man wrote:


Saying that sugar is the cause of an obesity epidemic is not something a researcher that has done their homework would say.




No one on this thread, and the researcher whose work is the subject of this thread ever said any such thing.


Feb 20, 2012 -- 3:01PM, mountain_man wrote:


Sugar may not be the healthiest food around, but the hysteria, the hype, they hyperbolic claims, are far worse.




Why you insist on taking an uw-vs-them, all-or-none, either/or, black-or-white, interpretation of the subject matter, here, and the hyperbole you continue to utilize is not just perplexing, it is unfathomable.  You are typically not such a reactionary.


Feb 20, 2012 -- 3:01PM, mountain_man wrote:


Being overly picky about the food you eat takes all the fun out of life. I'd rather live life and die a few months early than obsess about sugar.




So, finally, we learn the source of your complaints! 

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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 3:35PM #294
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MM wrote: “People like Atkins and their fad diets that don't work are big problems in helping people understand nutrition and how our bodies work.”


(I’m having some difficulty with the quote feature. Sigh.)


 


Very astute statement here.  While there have been successes in losing pounds with various diets (Atkins, South Beach, etc.), such ‘diets’ lull one into the belief one need not think about one’s eating plan. Especially post-weight loss.  Keeping the weight off is about changes to one’s eating habits and not about a temporary change in menu to drop pounds with a return to previous eating habits (which caused the weight to appear in the first place). And really, do folks go on these ‘diets’ with the expectation of losing and then regaining the pounds? Noooo.  Yet they are looked at as the solution to the excess pounds. No, the solution to the excess pounds is a sensible eating plan that one can maintain every day.


 


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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 3:31PM #293
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Feb 20, 2012 -- 3:01PM, farragut wrote:


No, Irene, they are not boring at all. You have been the welcome light of wisdom in this thread. And this, "Understanding the role of marketing and how advertisements work should be part of every child’s education", is, to my mind, the key message.


We cannot make as innocuous a substance as sugar a controlled substance; that just isn't going to happen. But the FDA is capable of effecting labeling rules that will help those who actually think about such things. And if we ever do learn how to educate our children, we can educate them in health, nutrition, and the deceptiveness of advertising as you suggest.




 


Thank you for your kind words.Wink


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3 months ago  ::  Feb 20, 2012 - 3:27PM #292
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I find that when I am on top of my eating, I put off eating anything with sugar or even starch until dinner time.  When I eat pastry or your average cereal earlier in the day I have cravings the rest of the day.   So I still have my sugar and my carby foods but I just try to eat them latter.



I used to put sugar in my coffee and tea.  I am a huge coffee drinker so I drank alot of sugar.  I cut out adding sugar to beverages and it has improved my cravings. It only took me about a day and half to learn to prefer my coffee without any sugar.   I still eat sugar but I just try to do it latter in the day which makes it easier for me to eat less. 


Just thought I would add something that might be more relevant to the conversation.



I think sugar makes you crave more sugar for alot of people so this tactic might work.  As bad as some people might think sugar is I think it is probably alot better for the average person than those artificial sweetners.  I feel that aspertame and saccrine is more problematic than sugar.


For most people who are not diabetic they can enjoy a diet that includes desserts and some sweets.  I also like gormet breads and the whole wheat stuff is not the most delicious.  Like with sugar I try to save breads for dinner time. 

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