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1 year ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 11:30PM #51
solfeggio
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In addition to having no nutrional value, processed and refined sugar is most definitely NOT a natural food for humans.  And it is not a harmless substance by any means.


And since there are plenty of people out there who have high blood sugar and may not know it, learning about processed sugar would be helpful to them.  Because processed sugar is most definitely linked to type 2 diabetes.  As well, sugar in the bloodstream can lead to heart problems.


 

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 12:05AM #52
mountain_man
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Feb 4, 2012 -- 11:30PM, solfeggio wrote:

In addition to having no nutrional value, processed and refined sugar is most definitely NOT a natural food for humans.  And it is not a harmless substance by any means.


As I said, sugar, there are several kinds, is natural and organic. It is a natural food that is not harmful to humans, and is in fact necessary for you to live. If you still wish to eliminate sugar from your diet, you will have to give up all fruits and veggies. Tough break for a vegetarian.


And since there are plenty of people out there who have high blood sugar and may not know it, learning about processed sugar would be helpful to them.  Because processed sugar is most definitely linked to type 2 diabetes.  As well, sugar in the bloodstream can lead to heart problems.


Sugar is not linked to diabetes. Bad diets are. If you have no sugar in your blood stream, you will die. It's called hypoglycemia.


Do you like water? Too much of it can kill you. Since water can kill you, you should stop drinking it. It has no nutritional value either.


Do you like carrots? Everyone that has died in the past hundred years or so had eaten carrots within months of their death.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 12:27AM #53
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If our bodies are truely our own, as some would argue on  other issues, we can eat whatever we damned well please and the do gooders should just butt out.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 7:11AM #54
arielg
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Feb 5, 2012 -- 12:27AM, Roodog wrote:


If our bodies are truely our own, as some would argue on  other issues, we can eat whatever we damned well please and the do gooders should just butt out.




What does "but out" mean?   You are  bothered with what the "do gooders " say,  so they shouldn't  express their views? 

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 10:48AM #55
mountain_man
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Feb 5, 2012 -- 12:27AM, Roodog wrote:

If our bodies are truely our own, as some would argue on  other issues, we can eat whatever we damned well please and the do gooders should just butt out.


Those "do gooders" as mythinformed as they are, have the right to speak out. We should try to educate them instead of silence them. It is a not so recent fad to hate sugar. They pass around old wives tales and junk science as if it were the truth. Some can be helped but many will reject science since it is not as popular as the myth.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 9:25PM #56
solfeggio
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What the smart alecks posting in this thread seem not to understand, refined and processed white sugar is not the same thing as simple fruit sugar (fructose as found in fruits and vegetables).  The OP of this thread has everything to do with refined sugar (mainly sucrose) and the fact that it is added to so many foods nowadays. 


Added sugar, whether something like high-fructose corn syrup, or sucrose in the form of white sugar, is bad for our health.


Despite what the pathetically ignorant know-it-alls say, the fact is that refined sugar is bad for people because it damages our bodies' endocrine system, is a factor in dental decay, and it is implicated in the development of diabetes, cancer, and heart disease.


Sugar is a full-fledged toxicant.


This is not 'junk' science or a current fad.  It is scientific fact.


Everybody should have a check-up each year, and this should include a complete blood work-up as well.  If a person's blood sugar is too high, that person should talk to a dietician about getting on a low glycemic diet to lose weight and prevent the development of diabetes.  People who have diabetes in their families are particularly prone to developing it themselves and should be especially careful about monitoring blood sugar levels.


Oh, and BTW: Type 2 diabetes, which seems to be so prevalent in America today, is undeniably linked to lack of exercise, obesity, and a diet high in refined sugar and animal products.


 

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 10:24PM #57
farragut
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I eat and drink what I choose according to the whim of the moment. And I have my check-up every year, where my physician says, "Whatever you're doing, keep doing it."


I really do not need your rules and taboos.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 10:28PM #58
solfeggio
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OK - I give up.  Rabello - You were right.  This isn't the place for me.  I'm out of here.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 10:35PM #59
mountain_man
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Feb 5, 2012 -- 9:25PM, solfeggio wrote:

What the smart alecks posting in this thread seem not to understand, refined and processed white sugar is not the same thing as simple fruit sugar ....


Your body does not care. It's all broken down in your stomach or intestines. What the ignorant here have been posting is hype and mythinformation from those that have never taken a human biology class, or just have a dire need to go along with the crowd.

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1 year ago  ::  Feb 05, 2012 - 11:06PM #60
jane2
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Feb 5, 2012 -- 9:25PM, solfeggio wrote:


What the smart alecks posting in this thread seem not to understand, refined and processed white sugar is not the same thing as simple fruit sugar (fructose as found in fruits and vegetables).  The OP of this thread has everything to do with refined sugar (mainly sucrose) and the fact that it is added to so many foods nowadays. 


Added sugar, whether something like high-fructose corn syrup, or sucrose in the form of white sugar, is bad for our health.


Despite what the pathetically ignorant know-it-alls say, the fact is that refined sugar is bad for people because it damages our bodies' endocrine system, is a factor in dental decay, and it is implicated in the development of diabetes, cancer, and heart disease.


Sugar is a full-fledged toxicant.


This is not 'junk' science or a current fad.  It is scientific fact.


Everybody should have a check-up each year, and this should include a complete blood work-up as well.  If a person's blood sugar is too high, that person should talk to a dietician about getting on a low glycemic diet to lose weight and prevent the development of diabetes.  People who have diabetes in their families are particularly prone to developing it themselves and should be especially careful about monitoring blood sugar levels.


Oh, and BTW: Type 2 diabetes, which seems to be so prevalent in America today, is undeniably linked to lack of exercise, obesity, and a diet high in refined sugar and animal products.


 




What makes you think most posters here don't already know most of this???


My husband inherited a disposition to diabetes. As his doctor, who was chief of internal medicine at a prestigious Atlanta hospital complex told him he had inherited "lousy" genes. His dad was a diabetic, too--from a rather distiguished family. Said father was a tennis player.


How about corn syrup, oh would-be-guru??


As a teen I was a figure skater--try that on for size !!!.  I could jump to the moon--a god-given ability one can't learn.I also walked miles. I'm 72 and a tad naughty. I got great genes. My dad was still doing jack-knife and gainor dives in his seventies. When I was 12 he began teaching me dives.


Eat as you choose but we can do without the preaching. My life has been much more enchanting than the one you describe. My condo group had a Super Bowl party today at our clubhouse; I didn't go because I chose not to. Super Bowl Sunday here involves great indulgences and all will go to work tomorrow. Most in my condo group are retired but many will be out walking in the morning. We also have a community pool at the club. Before I moved to my condo we had a family in-ground pool with a diving board at our big home on a two-acre lot. Don't play one-up with me. I don't enjoy one-up but I rarely loose if someone starts it.


Who are you to instruct us--an annoyance. Do they have decent posting boards in NZ?


You do not know much about real life in the US--only what you read online. We are not a classless society and many with problems do not live well. I vote and donate $$$ to help. I also donate to the Clinton Foundation to help across the world? Do you ??  Can you do so financially? Many here, including my family have worked hard and are able to do so.  In truth every paid position I've had has brought me joy................


you are not our guru............


 


 




 

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