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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 11:03PM #31
Wanderingal
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Nov 9, 2011 -- 10:54PM, jane2 wrote:


Just watched the Penn State spokesman on Lawrence O'Donnel's "Last Word".


Penn State admin is scapegoating Coach Paterno for the university's malfeasance. Let the investigation go forward into that malfeasance. Big money, big contracts, yada,yada.


 


 





More than one person or entity can be guilty.


In this case there is plenty of guilt to go around.


The fsct that the university is guilty of possible MIS-feasance and NON-feasance does not necessarily make Joe any less morally guilty for his failure to do everything he could to protect the victims.


Doing the very LEAST when vulnerable children's welfare is at stake is not anything to brag about or be congratulated for,


 


(Are you really trying to excuse Ole Joe for not even making a follow-up phone call to find out what had been done to protect the child?)


 

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 11:07PM #32
Do_unto_others
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Nov 9, 2011 -- 10:49PM, jane2 wrote:


Nov 9, 2011 -- 10:16PM, Do_unto_others wrote:


Could someone tell me why a college football coach earns $1million+ salary? What does a lecturer at Penn State earn?


The world has its priorities all wrong.




Actually Coach Paterno earned a bit over $500,000, probably well within scope.


My daughter made over $300,000 as a research analyst for the building industry in California before the bank scams. She earned it.
 





According to today's St. Petersburg Times it is well over a million. and according to this: www.coacheshotseat.com/SalariesContracts..., it is $1.5 million.


And I STILL say the coaches' salaries are whacked compared to TEACHERS, and PROFESSORS. Not saying your daughter didn't earn it NOR that she isn't worth it. I was comparing salaries within the walls of academe.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 11:09PM #33
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Nov 9, 2011 -- 10:16PM, Do_unto_others wrote:


Could someone tell me why a college football coach earns $1million+ salary? What does a lecturer at Penn State earn?


 


The world has its priorities all wrong.





Because students and fans spend a lot of money (millions) to see the games, buy the team's gear, etc...?

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 11:09PM #34
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Hello,



As MMarcoe has posted on US N&P forum...Paterno is fired.



love

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 11:09PM #35
Wanderingal
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Nov 9, 2011 -- 10:16PM, Do_unto_others wrote:


Could someone tell me why a college football coach earns $1million+ salary? What does a lecturer at Penn State earn?


 


The world has its priorities all wrong.




A college football coach in our area got fired for being a rotten coach and he walked off with a golden parachute of a MILLION dollars.


These guys supposedly make a lot of money for the colleges and thst's supposed to justify the salaries.


The truth is that the money gets plowed right back into the STHLETIC DEARTMENT--usually into the football program--and NOT to the library for books for all etc......


I did s big report on these practices during the NCAA scandals a few years ago.


 (The really big money that teh coaches make is from endorsements of athletic equipment. That's why you see all thsoe ads around arenas and football fields.


Our previous basketball coach make over $2 million dollars per year in endorsements from Nike alone.


And he had endorsement deals with five or six other companies as well.)

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 11:13PM #36
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Nov 9, 2011 -- 11:09PM, Wanderingal wrote:


Nov 9, 2011 -- 10:16PM, Do_unto_others wrote:


Could someone tell me why a college football coach earns $1million+ salary? What does a lecturer at Penn State earn?


 


The world has its priorities all wrong.




A college football coach in our area got fired for being a rotten coach and he walked off with a golden parachute of a MILLION dollars.


These guys supposedly make a lot of money for the colleges and thst's supposed to justify the salaries.


The truth is that the money gets plowed right back into the STHLETIC DEARTMENT--usually into the football program--and NOT to the library for books for all etc......


I did s big report on these practices during the NCAA scandals a few years ago.


 




Money that goes into the athletic department also supports women's sports and the smaller sports that wouldn't be able to sustain themselves without the help and therefore wouldn't be available to students.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 11:16PM #37
Wanderingal
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Nope.


In most departments the money the team makes from things like bowl games etc goes right back into THAT program only. The line about "supporting women's athletic programs etc" is just that--a line.


To get that info though you really have to look closely at the budgets for each ddepartment. Very time consuming and they won't always let the pertinent info out--even for publicly supported colleges.


Ask the women on softball teams just what kind of accommodations they get when they're on the road versus what the football players have.


And what kind of equipment the women's basketball team is supplied with versus the men's basketball team's etc.


 

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2011 - 11:37PM #38
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I just heard that Penn State fired Joe tonight.


 

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 2:56AM #39
DotNotInOz
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Nov 9, 2011 -- 10:54PM, jane2 wrote:


Just watched the Penn State spokesman on Lawrence O'Donnel's "Last Word".


Penn State admin is scapegoating Coach Paterno for the university's malfeasance. Let the investigation go forward into that malfeasance. Big money, big contracts, yada,yada.


Big business, including television, will have the last laugh. Who will corral them?



No one, basically, because the last laugh has already been had.


Thanks, Jane, for adding your pleas for justice and sanity.

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 7:02AM #40
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Hooo, boyee! I wondered earlier what was wrong with the grad assistant who reportedly said that he'd witnessed Sandusky having anal sex with a naked boy in the shower room at Penn State. I just read the grand jury testimony transcript and now REALLY wonder what was wrong with him.


I thought perhaps he was pretty young, maybe fresh out a bachelor's degree program and thus no more than 21 or 22, in which case consulting his father about what to do would be somewhat understandable.


The guy was nearly THIRTY when this incident occurred.


What he should have done is said better in this piece than I can express it--


What was wrong with Mike McQueary


Some serious questions need to be asked about his judgment.


From what I heard on this morning's news, he will not be on the field this Saturday as a Penn State asst. coach and may no longer be a coach there.


This whole situation is becoming more and more disturbing, and I'm certainly inclined to agree that it bears definite similarities to the decades-long coverup of such by the Catholic Church. Protect the brandname and nevermind the victims--they'll get over it eventually.


Heartless and morally bankrupt!


Penn State's president was fired by the trustees last night also. All the major players in this scandal appear to be gone now.


Still, it's a sad ending to what was so long believed an upright and honorable role by Joe Paterno. He hasn't missed a Penn State game since November 19, 1949!

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