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NASA plans to send men to asteroids by 2025
1 year ago  ::  Mar 31, 2011 - 4:43PM #46
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Mar 30, 2011 -- 8:45PM, teilhard wrote:

And by Treaty, "Antarctica" does NOT belong to any one Nation, nor do The Oceans beyond The 200 Mile Economic Zone ...


Thus Far, there have been NO Treaties delineating who may or may not "own," or "mine" or otherwise exploit an Asteroid or Comet ...



No but treaties can be made for that eventuality relatively easily.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2011 - 8:45PM #45
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And by Treaty, "Antarctica" does NOT belong to any one Nation, nor do The Oceans beyond The 200 Mile Economic Zone ...


Thus Far, there have been NO Treaties delineating who may or may not "own," or "mine" or otherwise exploit an Asteroid or Comet ...


Mar 30, 2011 -- 8:29PM, Yavanna wrote:


Mar 30, 2011 -- 7:13PM, Ebon wrote:


Mar 30, 2011 -- 12:34PM, teilhard wrote:

Slight Problem, though, also with THAT Arrangement ...


Where is it Written than any particular National Government has The Right or Authority to assign Mining Rights (on an Asteroid or on The Moon) to some Corporation ... ???


The USA does NOT "own" Outer Space ...



Point. The UN has jurisdiction over space (at least as far as humans are concerned, Lord knows what would happen if EBEs turn up) so presumably, they'd be the ones to divvy up who gets the rights to what (cue lots of anti-UN ranting from the right).





You know in the olden days, planting a flag was the symbol of conquest. Fortunately for the rest of the world, the United States didn't claim the moon as a new territory. ;)





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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2011 - 8:29PM #44
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Mar 30, 2011 -- 7:13PM, Ebon wrote:


Mar 30, 2011 -- 12:34PM, teilhard wrote:

Slight Problem, though, also with THAT Arrangement ...


Where is it Written than any particular National Government has The Right or Authority to assign Mining Rights (on an Asteroid or on The Moon) to some Corporation ... ???


The USA does NOT "own" Outer Space ...



Point. The UN has jurisdiction over space (at least as far as humans are concerned, Lord knows what would happen if EBEs turn up) so presumably, they'd be the ones to divvy up who gets the rights to what (cue lots of anti-UN ranting from the right).





You know in the olden days, planting a flag was the symbol of conquest. Fortunately for the rest of the world, the United States didn't claim the moon as a new territory. ;)

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While hammers fell like ringing bells
In places deep, where dark things sleep,
In hollow halls beneath the fells.

For ancient king and elvish lord
There many a gloaming golden hoard
They shaped and wrought, and light they caught
To hide in gems on hilt of sword.
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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2011 - 7:13PM #43
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Mar 30, 2011 -- 12:34PM, teilhard wrote:

Slight Problem, though, also with THAT Arrangement ...


Where is it Written than any particular National Government has The Right or Authority to assign Mining Rights (on an Asteroid or on The Moon) to some Corporation ... ???


The USA does NOT "own" Outer Space ...



Point. The UN has jurisdiction over space (at least as far as humans are concerned, Lord knows what would happen if EBEs turn up) so presumably, they'd be the ones to divvy up who gets the rights to what (cue lots of anti-UN ranting from the right).

He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. ~ Proverbs 14:31

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2011 - 4:00PM #42
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Mar 30, 2011 -- 3:29PM, Christianlib wrote:


something like motion triggered nukes


 


Evidently, as we are discovering, those are the same things as Nuclear Power Generation plants.




 


No room for uni taskers on asteroids!

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2011 - 3:29PM #41
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something like motion triggered nukes


 


Evidently, as we are discovering, those are the same things as Nuclear Power Generation plants.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2011 - 2:22PM #40
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Mar 30, 2011 -- 2:02PM, teilhard wrote:


 ... who then will "Sell" It to The [ ................. ] ...


{  ... some Guy in a Dark Alley near a Street Corner ... "Pssssst ... !!!  Hey ... !!! Yeah, YOU ... !!! Wanna buy an Asteroid ... ???  CHEAP ... !!!  SURE ... It's 'legit' ' ... I got all the Papers right here ... You'd be a CHUMP to pass up a Deal this good ... }







 


Sell?  That implies buy.  They just take. 

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2011 - 2:21PM #39
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Mar 30, 2011 -- 1:58PM, Christianlib wrote:


Yeah, but what effect will Smallpox-infested blankets have on asteroids?





I'm sure they'd figure out something higher tech. 


 


Maybe something like motion triggered nukes, or something. 

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2011 - 2:02PM #38
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 ... who then will "Sell" It to The [ ................. ] ...


{  ... some Guy in a Dark Alley near a Street Corner ... "Pssssst ... !!!  Hey ... !!! Yeah, YOU ... !!! Wanna buy an Asteroid ... ???  CHEAP ... !!!  SURE ... It's 'legit' ' ... I got all the Papers right here ... You'd be a CHUMP to pass up a Deal this good ... " }


Mar 30, 2011 -- 1:55PM, allthegoodnamesweretaken wrote:


Mar 30, 2011 -- 12:34PM, teilhard wrote:


Slight Problem, though, also with THAT Arrangement ...


Where is it Written than any particular National Government has The Right or Authority to assign Mining Rights (on an Asteroid or on The Moon) to some Corporation ... ???


The USA does NOT "own" Outer Space ...






 


Minor inconvenience.  They can just claim it.  It worked for the Europeans.......





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1 year ago  ::  Mar 30, 2011 - 1:58PM #37
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Mar 30, 2011 -- 1:55PM, allthegoodnamesweretaken wrote:


Mar 30, 2011 -- 12:34PM, teilhard wrote:


Slight Problem, though, also with THAT Arrangement ...


Where is it Written than any particular National Government has The Right or Authority to assign Mining Rights (on an Asteroid or on The Moon) to some Corporation ... ???


The USA does NOT "own" Outer Space ...






 


Minor inconvenience.  They can just claim it.  It worked for the Europeans.......




Yeah, but what effect will Smallpox-infested blankets have on asteroids?

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