The dwarves of yore made mighty spells, While hammers fell like ringing bells In places deep, where dark things sleep, In hollow halls beneath the fells.
For ancient king and elvish lord There many a gloaming golden hoard They shaped and wrought, and light they caught To hide in gems on hilt of sword. - J.R.R. Tolkien
I was extremely polite, Erey and the term hermaphrodite is no more acceptable than faggot. So please, for the second time do not use it. I'm sorry you're not familiar with the terminology of intersex or transgender. I am educating you.
In response to Mousey, the only reasons I wear purple are because I like the color and I'm a Vikings fan. I don't care what groups try to dictate what color signifies what else.
I love purple in all its various shades as well. In my teen years I did not own any other colour in my wardrobe
A tyrant must put on the appearance of uncommon devotion to religion. Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider god-fearing and pious. On the other hand, they do less easily move against him, believing that he has the gods on his side. Aristotle Never discourage anyone...who continually makes progress, no matter how slow. Plato.. "A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives" Jackie Robinson
I was extremely polite, Erey and the term hermaphrodite is no more acceptable than faggot. So please, for the second time do not use it. I'm sorry you're not familiar with the terminology of intersex or transgender. I am educating you.
In response to Mousey, the only reasons I wear purple are because I like the color and I'm a Vikings fan. I don't care what groups try to dictate what color signifies what else.
The dwarves of yore made mighty spells, While hammers fell like ringing bells In places deep, where dark things sleep, In hollow halls beneath the fells.
For ancient king and elvish lord There many a gloaming golden hoard They shaped and wrought, and light they caught To hide in gems on hilt of sword. - J.R.R. Tolkien
Listen to yourself, clearly I am not acting like I know because I don't.
But people like yourself who are strangers to me speaking from no real authority implying that I am insensitive and disrespectful because I don't immediately change my Lexicon. do you boss people around this much in real life??? I did look at an intersex website and they had no diologue available on why hermaphodite is out of favor, or if it is out of favor at all. In fact they do offer a gift with a donation a video on being a hermaphodite - using that word. So clearly the national organization does not find the word "offensive". So I can streach my understanding and see where Intersex is perhaps more appropriate, more explanatory but I don't see where the term hermaphodite is derrogatory.
It is not like this is a subject I discuss on a regular basis anyway. For the record when talking about children I typically will (when I ever do) use the term ambigous genitalia to describe the child's condition.
If you're not going to be discussing it on a regular basis, why can't you just switch to be polite? And did you read the damn link? First paragraph - "The word "hermaphrodite" is a stigmatizing and misleading word."
Further down - "While some intersex people do reclaim the word "hermaphrodite" with pride to reference themselves (like words such as "dyke" and "queer" have been reclaimed by LGBT people), it should be generally avoided except under specific circumstances."
I have spoken to many intersex people and nearly all of them have found the word hermaphrodite highly offensive. So I stopped using it. It's not your right to decide what's offensive to them. The fact that you can't be bothered to make the minimal effort because it's not offensive in your opinion is what makes you insensitive and disrespectful.
You know I might actually change terms but I really dont' want to right now because you are being so unreasonably sanctimonious and bossy. Have you ever heard about catching flies with honey? A plesant approach goes alot longer with me than a "HEY I Gottcha using that word aproach. I hope you don't market yourself as a particular advocate for the intersex people because with your approach you are not going to make any headway in fact with your approach you might set things back a bit.
Obviously the polite approach didn't work either, considering Yavanna was perfectly polite in her explanation and you simply ignored it. And I'm not pleasant enough? When you insist on being offensive, you have no right to complain when people get irritated with you. If you want a polite tone stop being offensive.
Erey, and Halceon days,
May I ask what hermaphrodite or intersex has to do with the wearing of the color purple? I am offended by the fact that the 2 of you are arguing a miniscule point that has little or nothing to do with the discussion.
As was stated earlier in this discussion by others: The wearing of purple is in support of many different groups of people including, but not limited to:
Battered women, Epilepsy, Prostate Cancer, etc.
The color purple is also in support of many athletic teams including but not limited to: The Minnesota Vikings.
Yes, it is a part of the gay pride flag, which just happens to be rainbow colored.
These would be the reasons for wearing Purple. As I see it, this is what this discussion is about.
Did the teacher and administration go too far with th student who wore the rainbow bracelet to school on one day and then the t-shirt declaring she was proud to be lesbian on the next? Yes.
Could it have been handled better? Yes.
Let me explain: When I was in high school (about 100 years ago-according to my kids), I brought a roach clip to school hanging from my purse, attatched to feathers that were attatched by leather strips. A teacher saw this, reminded me that drug paraphanalia was not allowed in school, and asked me to please put it in my purse, and leave it at home after that day. Problem solved. Lets change this senario, just slightly, ...Everything else being the same, lets change the teacher's reaction to that clip is totally unacceptable, you must rmove it! The next day I would likely have come in wearing a t-shirt that said something on the linesof proud to be a stoner on it with bob marley smoking a dubey, what would have happened? 1 of 2 things: 1 and the most extreme: I would have been suspended. 2 and the better solution: I would have been told to turn the shirt inside out for the day, and been asked to not wear it again.
I realize this deals with drugs and not sexual identity; but the point remains the same. Please remember: When I was her age, being gay and aids were both sick and twisted jokes. At that point in time, we did not realize either to be reality, some who were LGBT were just starting to "come out", but aids was still relatively unknown.
Try to be more sensitive to those different than yourself. If you have questions about the differences between you and someone, ask them, you just may learn something new!
Listen to yourself, clearly I am not acting like I know because I don't.
But people like yourself who are strangers to me speaking from no real authority implying that I am insensitive and disrespectful because I don't immediately change my Lexicon. do you boss people around this much in real life??? I did look at an intersex website and they had no diologue available on why hermaphodite is out of favor, or if it is out of favor at all. In fact they do offer a gift with a donation a video on being a hermaphodite - using that word. So clearly the national organization does not find the word "offensive". So I can streach my understanding and see where Intersex is perhaps more appropriate, more explanatory but I don't see where the term hermaphodite is derrogatory.
It is not like this is a subject I discuss on a regular basis anyway. For the record when talking about children I typically will (when I ever do) use the term ambigous genitalia to describe the child's condition.
If you're not going to be discussing it on a regular basis, why can't you just switch to be polite? And did you read the damn link? First paragraph - "The word "hermaphrodite" is a stigmatizing and misleading word."
Further down - "While some intersex people do reclaim the word "hermaphrodite" with pride to reference themselves (like words such as "dyke" and "queer" have been reclaimed by LGBT people), it should be generally avoided except under specific circumstances."
I have spoken to many intersex people and nearly all of them have found the word hermaphrodite highly offensive. So I stopped using it. It's not your right to decide what's offensive to them. The fact that you can't be bothered to make the minimal effort because it's not offensive in your opinion is what makes you insensitive and disrespectful.
You know I might actually change terms but I really dont' want to right now because you are being so unreasonably sanctimonious and bossy. Have you ever heard about catching flies with honey? A plesant approach goes alot longer with me than a "HEY I Gottcha using that word aproach. I hope you don't market yourself as a particular advocate for the intersex people because with your approach you are not going to make any headway in fact with your approach you might set things back a bit.
Obviously the polite approach didn't work either, considering Yavanna was perfectly polite in her explanation and you simply ignored it. And I'm not pleasant enough? When you insist on being offensive, you have no right to complain when people get irritated with you. If you want a polite tone stop being offensive.
Listen to yourself, clearly I am not acting like I know because I don't.
But people like yourself who are strangers to me speaking from no real authority implying that I am insensitive and disrespectful because I don't immediately change my Lexicon. do you boss people around this much in real life??? I did look at an intersex website and they had no diologue available on why hermaphodite is out of favor, or if it is out of favor at all. In fact they do offer a gift with a donation a video on being a hermaphodite - using that word. So clearly the national organization does not find the word "offensive". So I can streach my understanding and see where Intersex is perhaps more appropriate, more explanatory but I don't see where the term hermaphodite is derrogatory.
It is not like this is a subject I discuss on a regular basis anyway. For the record when talking about children I typically will (when I ever do) use the term ambigous genitalia to describe the child's condition.
If you're not going to be discussing it on a regular basis, why can't you just switch to be polite? And did you read the damn link? First paragraph - "The word "hermaphrodite" is a stigmatizing and misleading word."
Further down - "While some intersex people do reclaim the word "hermaphrodite" with pride to reference themselves (like words such as "dyke" and "queer" have been reclaimed by LGBT people), it should be generally avoided except under specific circumstances."
I have spoken to many intersex people and nearly all of them have found the word hermaphrodite highly offensive. So I stopped using it. It's not your right to decide what's offensive to them. The fact that you can't be bothered to make the minimal effort because it's not offensive in your opinion is what makes you insensitive and disrespectful.
You know I might actually change terms but I really dont' want to right now because you are being so unreasonably sanctimonious and bossy. Have you ever heard about catching flies with honey? A plesant approach goes alot longer with me than a "HEY I Gottcha using that word aproach. I hope you don't market yourself as a particular advocate for the intersex people because with your approach you are not going to make any headway in fact with your approach you might set things back a bit.
Listen to yourself, clearly I am not acting like I know because I don't.
But people like yourself who are strangers to me speaking from no real authority implying that I am insensitive and disrespectful because I don't immediately change my Lexicon. do you boss people around this much in real life??? I did look at an intersex website and they had no diologue available on why hermaphodite is out of favor, or if it is out of favor at all. In fact they do offer a gift with a donation a video on being a hermaphodite - using that word. So clearly the national organization does not find the word "offensive". So I can streach my understanding and see where Intersex is perhaps more appropriate, more explanatory but I don't see where the term hermaphodite is derrogatory.
It is not like this is a subject I discuss on a regular basis anyway. For the record when talking about children I typically will (when I ever do) use the term ambigous genitalia to describe the child's condition.
If you're not going to be discussing it on a regular basis, why can't you just switch to be polite? And did you read the damn link? First paragraph - "The word "hermaphrodite" is a stigmatizing and misleading word."
Further down - "While some intersex people do reclaim the word "hermaphrodite" with pride to reference themselves (like words such as "dyke" and "queer" have been reclaimed by LGBT people), it should be generally avoided except under specific circumstances."
I have spoken to many intersex people and nearly all of them have found the word hermaphrodite highly offensive. So I stopped using it. It's not your right to decide what's offensive to them. The fact that you can't be bothered to make the minimal effort because it's not offensive in your opinion is what makes you insensitive and disrespectful.
Yavanna: FYI folks, hermaphrodite is considered a durogatory and outdated term. The correct and appropriate word is "intersex". The word "Transgender" is also applicable in this cases.
It's an insult to be named after deities? O_O Man, I'm out of the loop. Still think it sounds cooler. "Intersex" sounds more like a company name or something.
I agree a company or a techno band. I don't believe I am aquainted with any hermaphodites although I could be wrong.
Why is it that when you are told something is an offensive word and provided the preferred alternative you choose to instead continue using the offensive word?
I don't know, it seems sometimes people like to one up people on these boards "it is not hermaphodite you oaf, it is intersex" just on and on with correcting of the terms. I get terms change over time but I will wait for a person who has the issue we mentioned to tell me. I don't like people who are outside of that preaching to me. Also, it was not very long ago I was watching a program on the TLC and the gentleman being featured in one of the shows declared himself to be an hermaphodite. So I am thinking if it is a term he is comfortable with then who am I?
Also, I don't know anyone outside this thread that is familiar with the term intersex.
So you can't even bother to switch it just in case? How respectful. Anyway here is a link to the Intersex Society of North America's page. It will tell you.
(And just so you know, just because one person is okay with it doesn't mean everyone is. If you don't know, don't act like you know.)
Listen to yourself, clearly I am not acting like I know because I don't.
But people like yourself who are strangers to me speaking from no real authority implying that I am insensitive and disrespectful because I don't immediately change my Lexicon. do you boss people around this much in real life??? I did look at an intersex website and they had no diologue available on why hermaphodite is out of favor, or if it is out of favor at all. In fact they do offer a gift with a donation a video on being a hermaphodite - using that word. So clearly the national organization does not find the word "offensive". So I can streach my understanding and see where Intersex is perhaps more appropriate, more explanatory but I don't see where the term hermaphodite is derrogatory.
It is not like this is a subject I discuss on a regular basis anyway. For the record when talking about children I typically will (when I ever do) use the term ambigous genitalia to describe the child's condition.
