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Is the Super Bowl an appropriate place for advocacy ads?
2 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2010 - 12:26PM #16
rabello
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CBS's statement with regard to rejecting the "Mancrunch" ad:

"After reviewing the ad - which is entirely commercial in nature - our Standards and Practices department decided not to accept this particular spot. As always, we are open to working with the client on alternative submissions."

Apparently because the ad shows two men in a bear hug, kissing.

To which Mancrunch responds:

"We have the money to pay for it. If the ad showed a man and woman kissing it would have been accepted. You see ads for erectile dysfunction morning, noon and night. It's discriminatory that they won't show this....They should call our bluff. If the ad doesn't air on the Super Bowl, it will air on another network. It's not like it plays like Adam Lambert [kissing another man on the AMAs]."

Before CBS rejected tha ad, the American Family Association President, Tim Wildmon, released this statement Thursday:

"CBS should not put parents in the position of answering embarrassing and awkward questions from their children while they're just trying to enjoy a football game."

(hmmmm.....)

Source: Gay Dating Ad Sacked before Super Bowl

The article includes this observation.

The Super Bowl, while perennially the most-watched television event of the year, has traditionally avoided the role of political platform, until this year.

Nothing more than bias along with beer chug-a-lugging.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2010 - 11:55AM #15
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Feb 2, 2010 -- 11:41AM, Marcion wrote:

Commercials are commercials you pay for a time slot and it is accepted if it doesn't violate the rules.  This ad does not violate any rules.



What I read in the article was that all the time slots were filled. They wanted provisional approval in case a time slot became available. That approval hasn't come through yet. BUT they got something much better - a whole nation talking about their "rejected" ad and website for free.


My only hangup with the attention the ad is receiving is that fanatical christians feel that they are the moral compass for this country.



Extremist christians have believed that for decades.


Not so, the moral tone of the Republic was set by deist principals of the founding fathers.



That's right.

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2010 - 11:48AM #14
rabello
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Feb 2, 2010 -- 11:41AM, Marcion wrote:

Commercials are commercials you pay for a time slot and it is accepted if it doesn't violate the rules.  This ad does not violate any rules.


My only hangup with the attention the ad is receiving is that fanatical christians feel that they are the moral compass for this country.


Not so, the moral tone of the Republic was set by deist principals of the founding fathers.






Well, the ad for the gay men's social network didn't violate any rules, either, and the sponsor had the millions to pay for it, too.  Still, for some reason, CBS elected to reject their advocacy ad.   The fact that there is a substantial outcry against the Focus on the Family ad seems to escape the sensibilities of the PTB at CBS, though.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2010 - 11:41AM #13
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Commercials are commercials you pay for a time slot and it is accepted if it doesn't violate the rules.  This ad does not violate any rules.


My only hangup with the attention the ad is receiving is that fanatical christians feel that they are the moral compass for this country.


Not so, the moral tone of the Republic was set by deist principals of the founding fathers.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2010 - 11:05AM #12
rabello
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Feb 2, 2010 -- 10:49AM, theinterpreter wrote:


During the Super bowl is the best time to run the pro life ad, where the most people will see it. May God bless Tebow and CBS.




For what purpose?  You think it'll change minds?


It's going to be played during the first quarter, and will be quickly overshadowed by the good, entertaining ads.  The Super Bowl is a time for beer and hot dogs and a whole lot of yelling and whipping it up.  The only people who will spend time in contemplation after seeing the ad will be those who already agree with it.   Everyone else is going to be concentrating on their "team" and having fun, and laughing over the good, non advocacy ads.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2010 - 10:49AM #11
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During the Super bowl is the best time to run the pro life ad, where the most people will see it. May God bless Tebow and CBS.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2010 - 10:35AM #10
rabello
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Feb 2, 2010 -- 10:27AM, rangerken wrote:


CBS doesn't own the airwaves. CBS controls a segment of them, like many other private media companies.





They may as well own them.


Seeing as how they decide that one ad is too disrespectful to one group of Americans, while another ad is not too disrespectful to another group of Americans


What I really think, though, is that the super bowl is an ineffective place to run a pro life ad, is they have the millions to spend on ads, I think it would be more effective as a public service ad to be run multiple times rather than try to take advantage of the fact that super bowl ads generate a lot of interest -- the funny, creative ones, that is.   Running it during the super bowl isn't going to change anybody's minds, and that's assuming viewers actually pay attention.

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2010 - 10:27AM #9
Erey
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Feb 2, 2010 -- 9:56AM, Grinandbearit wrote:


I agree with delmarvin. Take a look at this ad they refuse to run:


www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/28/mancru...




 


In general I am support efforts to normalize homosexuality, to destigmitise it.  And I would have no problem with a gay dating web site being advertised.


 


I will say I read some commentary from a Gay father who was disgusted by the ad.  He said he hopes it does NOT run because it plays into every unflattering sterotype of gay men he can think of and it gives the wrong message.  He says he will NOT let his children see the ad. 


I don't have those strong oppinions

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2 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2010 - 10:27AM #8
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CL, with my wife being from New Orleans, and having many, many relatives there, I am of course hoping that the Saints, my second favorite NFL team (first is naturally the New england Patriots) defeat the Colts.


Having gotten that out of the way..... Laughing


CBS doesn't own the airwaves. CBS controls a segment of them, like many other private media companies. Whether or not I agree with the decisions by CBS regarding advertisementts, it is and should be solely the decision of CBS. I have the choice of whether or not to watch. I'll probably do my normal thing of changing channels... or going to split screen duing commercials, except for the Budweiser Clydesdale ones which I always enjoy, being a total 'hose nut'.


Ken

Conservative, Libertarian, Life member of the NRA and VFW
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2 years ago  ::  Feb 02, 2010 - 10:25AM #7
Erey
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Feb 2, 2010 -- 8:24AM, rangerken wrote:


Any privately funded production is an appropriate place for any privately funded advertisement that meets the private production company's standards and requirements.


After all, nobody has to watch!


Ken




True!

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