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3 years ago ::
Aug 25, 2009 - 2:13AM
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This evening on one of the msnbc pundit shows a serious investigative reporter said that the timeline about drugs administered to MJ on the day of his death may be wrong. I am so leery of even decent news sources that I may watch and see.
MJ himself was addicted and had help staying that way. This reporter also said that Murray was trying to wean him off the drug that killed him.
The whole scenario is mind-boggling: being injected with anethesia for sleep? This reporter also said the tour company for MJ may be involved: as we've learned sometimes the show can't go on. Instead we had an in-home concierge doctor and "clinic".
Yeah, Dr. Murry was weaning Jackson from the Propafol -- reducing his dosage from 50 to 25 mg per dose. And the last dose he gave him was, indeed, at 25 mg. But it proved too much in combination with the benzodiazapines that had been administered (two of which were via injection rather than taken orally) earlier in that morning. San Francisco Chronicle story, from the AP, here.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 24, 2009 - 10:58PM
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Hi there Stargazer. I remember you. Welcome back from me too! I was thoroughly sick of the coverage of Michael Jackson's death. And I'm afraid it's all going to come back again. Having said that, if he was indeed killed by his doctor then I'm all for a vigorous prosecution. I just don't like these kinds of media circuses over 'celebreties'. So all I can do is refuse to watch or listen. But again, like him or not (and I did like lots of his earlier music even though his personal life struck me as totally wierd) he did not deserve to be killed by his own doctor. So let there be a really good investigation and trial. Ken
Conservative, Libertarian, Life member of the NRA and VFW
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3 years ago ::
Aug 24, 2009 - 10:57PM
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This evening on one of the msnbc pundit shows a serious investigative reporter said that the timeline about drugs administered to MJ on the day of his death may be wrong. I am so leery of even decent news sources that I may watch and see. MJ himself was addicted and had help staying that way. This reporter also said that Murray was trying to wean him off the drug that killed him. The whole scenario is mind-boggling: being injected with anethesia for sleep? This reporter also said the tour company for MJ may be involved: as we've learned sometimes the show can't go on. Instead we had an in-home concierge doctor and "clinic".
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3 years ago ::
Aug 24, 2009 - 10:38PM
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Greetings, Stargazer. And welcome back :-) Great post. It's tempered my anger, so thank you for that :-)
Merope
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3 years ago ::
Aug 24, 2009 - 10:28PM
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In regards to the original post: Michael Jackson was obviously a prescription drug addict. He would have gotten his fix one way or another. Someone very close to me died of a prescription drug O.D. earlier this year. She was an addict for a decade. She'd lie to her entire family and steal from us for a fix. Then when we would confront her, she'd guilt us. It was madness. She would have said anything to a doctor for a fix. She was going to several doctors and several pharmacies, and lying to all of them, no doubt. I imagine that when you combine this type of deception with Jackson's money, it was difficult to tell him no. I'm not saying the doctor isn't an a-hole. He is. But in the end, Jackson was an addict. He wasn't ready to get sober. If he didn't get the drugs from that doctor, he would have gotten them somewhere else. And if Jackson had the knowledge to administer those drugs to himself, he would have. Death is just around the corner in addictions like this. From www.drugabuse.gov: "According to the 2003 National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH), an estimated 4.7 million Americans used prescription drugs nonmedically for the first time in 2002 -
- 2.5 million used pain relievers
- 1.2 million used tranquilizers
- 761,000 used stimulants
- 225,000 used sedatives
Pain reliever incidence increased-from 573,000 initiates in 1990 to 2.5 million initiates in 2000-and has remained stable through 2003. In 2002, more than half (55 percent) of the new users were females, and more than half (56 percent) were ages 18 or older." ~star~ PS: New here, but not new to BNet. Been away for years and decided to come back. Greetings.
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3 years ago ::
Aug 24, 2009 - 9:08PM
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The LA County coroner has rulled Michael Jackson's death a homocide.
NOW it gets interesting.
THE LINK.
I called it the day he died two months ago. I knew this was an Elvis Presley's doctor type death. That term is now passé; the new term du jour is 'Michael Jackson's doctor.' Jesus H. Christ, look at what Murry administered before the Propafol: Valium, Ativan, and another benzodiazepine. Which is too bad because Valium can make you wired and you can rapidly build up a tolerance to both Valium and Ativan; but in combination with the Propafol, they were deadly. Then Murry didn't tell either the paramedics or anybody in the emergency room that he'd given the Propafol. And it looks like he lied to the cops when he said he didn't purchase any Propalol for Jackson. Plus, he was on the phone for 47 minutes -- on one call -- while supposedly attempting to revive Jackson; he left out that little phone call item in his interviews with the cops, so I think there'll be some questions raised there. Regardless of whether the county prosecutes, I think Murry is going to lose his license. And I think the prescribing protocols for Propafol will be really tightened up. So this finding just makes me angry all the way around -- at Jackson for badgering his physician for meds, at his physician for caving, at those of Jackson's idol-worshipping fans who will go into denial about this, and at the whole symbiosis thing with celebs, their physicians, and pharmaceuticals. Just thinking about this, I hope the LA County DA throws the book at Murry to send a message to the entertainment industry and the physicians who enable bad pharmaceutical practices therein that this kind of crap won't be tolerated. (If that's the case, Murry is going to need almost every penny of the 30 grand a month Jackson was paying him to mount any kind of a credible criminal defense.) End of rant 
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3 years ago ::
Aug 24, 2009 - 8:03PM
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Michael Jackson will now be buried on September 3 in Los Angeles, his family have announced, rather than on August 31. One article said the family needed more time to arrange burial. HUH? 
Beliefnet Community Moderator ~ Peace Love Stardove It is no longer good enough to cry peace, we must act peace, live peace, and live in peace. -Shenandoah proverb 
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3 years ago ::
Aug 24, 2009 - 7:58PM
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Jesus, Mary, and Joseph... He is NEVER going away... is he?
James Thurber - "It is better to know some of the questions than all of the answers."
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3 years ago ::
Aug 24, 2009 - 6:10PM
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I read the story about an hour ago, for once almost straight news. In all likelihood the body has not been buried because of the ongoing inquest. (or maybe I watch too many cop shows.)
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3 years ago ::
Aug 24, 2009 - 5:56PM
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Oh boy, another Michael Jackson thread at HTZ. Thanks for the link. Manslaughter will be the charge if there is one. Is it his birthday yet, so his body can be laid to rest?
Beliefnet Community Moderator ~ Peace Love Stardove It is no longer good enough to cry peace, we must act peace, live peace, and live in peace. -Shenandoah proverb
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