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6 years ago  ::  Aug 28, 2008 - 6:27PM #181
CharikIeia
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I need a bit more time to digest the responses, Jim -- so just the quick correction of an error
that was too obvious to overlook...

[QUOTE=L.Ann;718016]Only Russia can  re-inact the Cold War and it's original methodology by it's actions.[/QUOTE]
Typically, it takes two to tango.

What currently happens in the Black Sea is a somewhat irritating cannon boat show, with the USA and some allies "re-inacting the Cold War and it's original methodology by their actions".

Just in case you paid attention.
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 28, 2008 - 9:13PM #182
L.Ann
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[QUOTE=CharikIeia;722077]I need a bit more time to digest the responses, Jim -- so just the quick correction of an error
that was too obvious to overlook...


Typically, it takes two to tango.

What currently happens in the Black Sea is a somewhat irritating cannon boat show, with the USA and some allies "re-inacting the Cold War and it's original methodology by their actions".

Just in case you paid attention.[/QUOTE]

Yes, i have noticed the alignment of NATO countries and U.S war delivery ships.  I think it only wise to receive humanitarian aid with the appropriate means to insure it's delivery.   It appears the Asian Security Council rejected Russia's submitted declaration.  Obviously, there is a respect by many for 'territorial sovereignity."  It appears that Russia is not adhering to international law and agreements.....and, is still exherting the 'power politics' strategy..... Did i understand correctly, Char mentioned that "we should not get involved and it's really none of our business?" 

  The following reasons may apply to Principle:

1.    Trust factor in illegal invasion and pre-emptive proxy.
2..   Russian war ships and their soldiers already in the Black Sea occupying 2 of Georgia's ports.   
3.    The terms of the cease fire agreement breached on several points.
4.     Illegal occupation of a sovereign country.
5.     Declaring independant states within Georgia's border.
6.     Russia's disapproval for humanitarian aid to Georgia.
7.     The insecurity of ex-soviet countries boardering the black sea due to Russia's military threats.
8.     Russia's warning for the U.S. not send more aid ships.
9.     Russia's warning to NATO that it has exhausted it's forces in the area  due to international agreements.
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6 years ago  ::  Sep 25, 2008 - 6:15AM #183
CharikIeia
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Tide is turning, also in the USA?



Now, five weeks after the end of the war in the Caucasus, the winds have shifted in America. Even Washington is beginning to suspect that Saakashvili, a friend and ally, could in fact be a gambler -- someone who triggered the bloody five-day war and then told the West bold-faced lies. "The concerns about Russia have remained," says Paul Sanders, an expert on Russia and the director of the conservative Nixon Center in Washington. His words reflect the continuing Western assessment that Russia's military act of revenge against the tiny Caucasus nation Georgia was disproportionate, that Moscow violated international law by recognizing the separatist republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and, finally, that it used Georgia as a vehicle to showcase its imperial renaissance.

But then Saunders qualifies his statement: "More and more people are realizing that there are two sides in this conflict, and that Georgia was not as much a victim as a willing participant." Members of US President George W. Bush's administration, too, are reconsidering their position. Georgia "marched into the South Ossetian capital" after a series of provocations, says Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Daniel Fried.



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6 years ago  ::  Sep 25, 2008 - 6:15AM #184
CharikIeia
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Tide is turning, also in the USA?



Now, five weeks after the end of the war in the Caucasus, the winds have shifted in America. Even Washington is beginning to suspect that Saakashvili, a friend and ally, could in fact be a gambler -- someone who triggered the bloody five-day war and then told the West bold-faced lies. "The concerns about Russia have remained," says Paul Sanders, an expert on Russia and the director of the conservative Nixon Center in Washington. His words reflect the continuing Western assessment that Russia's military act of revenge against the tiny Caucasus nation Georgia was disproportionate, that Moscow violated international law by recognizing the separatist republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and, finally, that it used Georgia as a vehicle to showcase its imperial renaissance.

But then Saunders qualifies his statement: "More and more people are realizing that there are two sides in this conflict, and that Georgia was not as much a victim as a willing participant." Members of US President George W. Bush's administration, too, are reconsidering their position. Georgia "marched into the South Ossetian capital" after a series of provocations, says Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Daniel Fried.



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6 years ago  ::  Oct 07, 2008 - 1:19PM #185
L.Ann
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Thanks Char for the update.....

"And so the love affair begins anew."

"""A pair of powerful spectacles has sometimes sufficed to cure a person in love""" -- Friedrich Nietzsche.


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