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3 years ago  ::  Feb 21, 2015 - 8:46AM #31
weberhome02
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How People Will Stay In Heaven


Back in 1968, I lived alone for a while in the daylight basement of a family home in Oregon. The solitude afforded me plenty of free time to think about the afterlife; and one of my biggest concerns was of course that of ending up in hell.


I reasoned that it would be a whole lots easier to stay out of hell if only complying with the Ten Commandments were second nature rather than such an effort of will power and self denial. Well; in time I found out that there really is such a thing as a second nature.


"Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God." (1John 3:9)


That is quite remarkable; and one of the supernatural aspects of Christianity that gets very little press these days. That which is born of the Spirit as per John 3:3-8 is not only 110% sinless, but it cannot sin; the reason given is that it takes after its Father, who, according Jas 1:13, is impervious to temptation; and within whom, according to 1John 1:5, there is no darkness.


In a nutshell: There is now in my possession a divine nature and a human nature. The divine nature was born of the Spirit as per John 3:3-8 and is suitable for life in the kingdom of God, while the human nature was born of man and is unsuitable for life in the kingdom of God.


Though I came into existence with human nature; I'm not stuck with it. No; according to Col 2:11, it's been somehow miraculously amputated from my existence by the hand of God so that I will go into the kingdom with only divine nature; ergo: I won't have any sins to confess in the kingdom because my divine nature will never, ever, compel me to commit any; which means, of course, that I will never be kicked out.


Is the divine nature a pipe dream? Well; Peter didn't seem to think so.


†. 2Pet 1:3-5 . . His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence. For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, in order that by them you might become partakers of the divine nature


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3 years ago  ::  Feb 22, 2015 - 11:12AM #32
weberhome02
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Female Pastors, Preachers, and Teachers


The keys to properly understanding this issue are religion, venue, and age group. The religion is Christianity, the venues are Christian church and Christian marriage, and the age group is Christian adults-- not Christian men, women, and children; rather, Christian men and women.


If it wasn't so sad, it would almost be humorous to watch people quote Paul's writings as proof texts to refute Paul's writings; viz: Paul vs Paul. (chuckle) The clash of the titans; except that in this case, the titans clashing with each other are both Paul. Here's what I mean:


†. Gal 3:28 . . There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


That's a favorite proof text amongst the equality faction. But the apostle of Jesus Christ who wrote Gal 3:28 is the same apostle of Jesus Christ who wrote the passages below:


†. 1Cor 11:3 . . But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.


†. 1Tim 2:11-12 . . Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.


†. 1Cor 14:34-35 . . Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.


One of Paul's reasons for prohibiting Christian women leading Christian men is primogeniture.


†. 1Tim 2:13 . . For Adam was first formed, then Eve.


Christian women who dare leading Christian men, are rebels who have taken it upon themselves to overrule the principle of primogeniture; and thus obtain their positions not by divine authority, but rather by "usurping" authority. The koiné Greek word is authenteo (ow-then-teh'-o) which means to act of oneself; viz: to dominate. In a nutshell, authenteo simply means to be head-strong.


The conduct of head-strong Christian women is no better than that of pagan heathens.


†. 1Sam 15:22-23 . . Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.


Another reason is that it puts Christian women in position to ruin Christian men very similar to how Eve ruined Adam.


†. 1Tim 2:14 . . Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.


In her deceived condition; Eve talked Adam into following her lead.


†. Gen 3:17 . .You listened to your wife


I seriously doubt that Eve deliberately set out to ruin Adam. I believe she inadvertently ruined him. In other words; hers was what we might call an honest mistake because she was in a deceived state of mind.


That's the very same mental condition of Christian women leading Christian men. They have been deceived into sincerely believing that they are doing nothing wrong. Well; the result is the very same result as before: Christian men who permit themselves to be led by Christian women, end up disobeying Christ just as Adam disobeyed God; because Paul's rules are Christ's rules.


†. 1Cor 14:37 . . If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of The Lord.


†. 1Ths 4:1-2 . .We beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.


Though they cannot see it because of their deceived mental state: Christian women leading Christian men; are Christ's enemies rather than his allies.


†. John 15:14 . .You are my friends if you do as I wish.


And they're disloyal too.


†. John 14:15 . . If you love me, you will comply with what I command.


†. John 14:21 . .Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me.


†. John 14:23-24 . . If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching . . He who does not love me will not obey my teaching.


Word To The Wise: According to 1Cor 3:9-15 there are rewards to earn. Well; according to 2Tim 2:5, nobody is getting one unless they play by the rules; and in this matter, the rules for Christian conduct are what Christ says they are.


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3 years ago  ::  Feb 23, 2015 - 8:27AM #33
weberhome02
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Sophists are fond of pointing to Old Testament female luminaries like Deborah to justify Christian women leading Christian men. But they need to wake up and get their bearings. Deborah wasn't a Christian; and besides: she lived in the Old Testament era. That ship has sailed and we today live in the New Testament era-- an era where Christ's wishes reign supreme. Male leadership may not be ideal; but the bottom line is: males are Christ's gender of choice; and it is his Father's wishes that believers follow His son's lead.


†. Matt 17:5 . .Behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and behold, a voice out of the cloud, saying: This is My beloved son, with whom I am well pleased: Listen to him!


†. John 3:36 . . He who does not obey The Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.


You know why the issue of Christian women leading Christian men is so controversial? It's because far more Christians are worldly than heavenly; they're living the Christian life according to the standards of their culture, and according to their feelings, instead of according to Christ's rules; viz: they're carnal instead of spiritual; and apparently content to be that way.


Nothing brings out a female's fallen nature like a gender issue. Only a truly Spirit-filled woman is at peace with male supremacy. The rest are perpetually chafed by it because they are ruled by the flesh instead of the Spirit.


†. Rom 8:5-8 . .Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.


Christianity isn't everyone's cup of tea. If people find Christ's rules of conduct too strict, too old fashioned and/or too contrary to their culture, then maybe they ought to take up something else, like maybe Buddhism or Yoga meditation. But one thing no one should do is take up Christianity with the thought of reforming it. You see, that would be the sin of heresy, which is a sin that merits ostracizing.


†. Rom 16:17 . .Watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.


†. Titus 3:10-11 . . Reject a divisive person after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self condemned.


Had Eve stuck to her guns and repeated God's prohibition against eating the fruit every time the Serpent tried to influence her thinking; she would not have been so easily defeated. Eve's fatal error was in letting the Serpent pull her away from God's prohibition. I have made up mind not to duplicate her error by letting people pull me away from Paul's prohibitions seeing as how according to 1Cor 14:37 and 1Ths 4:1-2, Paul's prohibitions are Christ's prohibitions.


†. 1Cor 16:13 . . Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong.


†. Eph 6:16-17 . .Take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.


†. 1Pet 5:8-9 . . Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the Devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith


†. Jas 4:7 . . Resist the Devil, and he will flee from you.


The Last Resort.


If after reading posts #32 and #33 you're still not sure about female pastors, preachers, and teachers; I suggest playing it safe; viz: If you don't know: don't.


†. Rom 14:22-23 . . Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.


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