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9 months ago  ::  Sep 06, 2012 - 9:54AM #11
Nino0814
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Was Jesus a racist?  I do not know.  A case certainly can be made that racism violates the trajectory of his social understanding, but that is based on many assumptions about the historical teachings of Jesus that we simply do not have evidence for.


People who admire, feel inspired by, or follow, Jesus certainly would reject a racist Jesus.  


The Biblical record is a "mixed bag" [no matter your particular social ideology].  There are some passages that are socially generous [liberal] and some that promote views we would rightly consider tribal.


I believe that the gospels were relaying a picture of Jesus to address the writer's community's immediate concerns.  They were not written for us.; therefore we cannot know the complete intention of the writer or if those words actually go back to the historical Jesus.  The same is true for all passages.  Even our favorite examples!

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 06, 2012 - 2:09PM #12
slate
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Of course, you theologians know more about it than I do, but I really like my explanation better! 


That's why we have so many different interpretations, I suppose.  If I don't like yours, I can just


 make up my own.  

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 06, 2012 - 7:27PM #13
Nino0814
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Sep 6, 2012 -- 2:09PM, slate wrote:


Of course, you theologians know more about it than I do, but I really like my explanation better! 


That's why we have so many different interpretations, I suppose.  If I don't like yours, I can just  make up my own.  



Since we have little historical information to work with, your view is as valid as anyone's.  


The more I study the Christian Faith, and the quest for the historical Jesus, the less certain I become.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 10:22PM #14
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Sep 5, 2012 -- 2:38AM, SeraphimR wrote:


Sep 5, 2012 -- 12:46AM, MsTopaz wrote:


Sep 4, 2012 -- 11:15PM, Dutch777 wrote:


Yes, I am aware that "dog" is one of several anti-Gentile slurs used in the Jewish Community.  Rabbi Meier Kahane called Arabs "dogs".  I'm also aware that Jesus used the term toward the SyroPhoenician woman.  Big deal.


Besides, it's my job to stir the $#!+.  Laughing




Dutch, your signature says, "The Socratic Standard:  Follow the evidence;____ if it doesn't make sense, it's bull$#!+."


It doesn't make sense that Jesus would be racist. Therefore, it must be...




Certainly it makes sense.  The Jews are the Chosen People and Jesus was sent to them, was one of them.


Instead of trying to fit Christ to the Politically Correct Procrustean Bed of American Liberalism, try to imagine how a Greek in Corinth or Antioch would have heard the story.  This hypothetical Greek didn't know about racism, after all.  Racism is a post Darwinian concept.





Before Darwin, people heartly hated people from other lands, and even different cities in their own country. Jews despised Gentiles, Greeks hated barbarians, The Chinese and Japanese regarded Westerners as barbarians. Ethnic hatred is as old as mankind and I am sure that will long endure long after this country passes away into ancient history.


I should note that love of all mankind  is derived from the Biblical injunctions to love one's neighbor as oneself. Otherwise, there is really nothing else to say it is wrong to hate a person or a people. Outside of biblical religion and especially among ancient pagans, hate and bigotry was not only accepted but many cases expected by their societies. Many cultures lived by the feud.

For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.

St. Thomas Aquinas

If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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