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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 10:19AM #11
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www.nytimes.com/2004/08/04/opinion/marty...
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 1:17PM #12
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Jun 17, 2012 -- 10:19AM, Spokang wrote:

www.nytimes.com/2004/08/04/opinion/marty...



Jim, isn't it telling that "Dr.Luxemburg" is a pseudonym; the author is fearful of using his real monicker?   He might be the next one blown up, shot, stabbed or otherwise obliterated by a member of The Religion Of Peace.


As for "hur" meaning "white" in Aramaic --- the Koran was written in Arabic and it is considered the set-standard for the literary form of Arabic.   In any case, who would commit suicide for the promise of "white grapes" in the afterlife when they can be bought and enjoyed, for $1.79 per pound, in this mundane realm ?   Besides --- I much prefer Concord grapes.


Do I perceive "whitewash" afoot ?

Walk Your Own DharmaPath; be awake.

The Socratic Standard:  Follow the evidence;____ if it doesn't make sense, it's bull$#!+.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 2:56PM #13
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I wonder if those celestial grapes are liable to grape-blight ?  Heaven may be choice real estate, but no-one claimed it to be without the occasional wrinkle.


old.padil.gov.au/pbt/files/uall/BRG_Life...


As for the 72 virgins, after they've been --- ah, shall we say "enjoyed" --- the problem arises that they're no longer virgins.  Can they be traded in on newer models?


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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 4:55PM #14
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Jun 17, 2012 -- 2:56PM, Dutch777 wrote:


I wonder if those celestial grapes are liable to grape-blight ?  Heaven may be choice real estate, but no-one claimed it to be without the occasional wrinkle.


old.padil.gov.au/pbt/files/uall/BRG_Life...


As for the 72 virgins, after they've been --- ah, shall we say "enjoyed" --- the problem arises that they're no longer virgins.  Can they be traded in on newer models?





That would constitute no fault divorce.Wink

For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.

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If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 5:22PM #15
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That would constitute no fault divorce.Wink[/quote]


Re-treaded virgins ?   In Muslim countries there is a process used for this.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 5:25PM #16
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Jun 17, 2012 -- 2:56PM, Dutch777 wrote:


As for the 72 virgins, after they've been --- ah, shall we say "enjoyed" --- the problem arises that they're no longer virgins.  Can they be traded in on newer models?





en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_virginit...



"There is no reason,


No not the least,


Why theirs  couldn't be one, too."


(gently stolen from the hymn, The Saints of God.)



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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 6:59PM #17
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Marian theology is a vast spectrum of speculation skating about  on a paucity of supportive evidence.  There are more Marian speculations than Heinz has pickles.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 10:50PM #18
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Jun 17, 2012 -- 5:22PM, Dutch777 wrote:




That would constitute no fault divorce.Wink



Re-treaded virgins ?   In Muslim countries there is a process used for this.





Yeah, they blow demselves up!Surprised

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For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 2:56PM #19
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It is interesting to note that a columnist in the Guardian calls the CoE a church only fit for bigots and hypocites because they refuse to accept gays and women bishops.


Here in the States, TEC accepts both gays and women bishops, and we are called "irrelevant".


We play the wedding tune and they will not dance, we play the funeral dirge and they will not mourn.


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9 months ago  ::  Aug 26, 2012 - 10:22AM #20
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Remember the story of King Canute who thought he was so omnipotent that he could command the tide to stay back ?


He got his Fruit-Of-The-Looms wet, big time.


Here's the contemporary equivalent.


news.yahoo.com/scotlands-catholic-priest...


N.B. --- the headline is somewhat inaccurate.  It isn't the priests who are opposed; it's the hierarchy.  I'll bet ca. 1/3rd of the RC priests would opt for SSM for themselves.  The other 2/3rd. would opt for  Straight marriage in a jiffy.


Enjoy.  Comments ever welcomed.  Kiss

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