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2 years ago  ::  May 23, 2012 - 8:42PM #1
Dutch777
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We can thank RooDog for this gem; he put me onto it.

RC theologian Hans Kung, who has had his license to teach yanked, has just authored a new book.  He advises the laity to seize control of the RCC in order to save it.  IMVHO, the poor man is deluded and has taken up residency in La-La Land.  What say you?

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2 years ago  ::  May 23, 2012 - 9:28PM #2
Nino0814
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I think Hans might be onto something.  Young RCs in Germany are filling out government forms to avoid automatically paying money to the RCC through their pay roll tax system.   This is an alarming trend.  Perhaps some future German bishops will lead their people away from the shackles of Roman authoritarianism, in the hopes of reviving faith in their institution, if they can find the courage.  


The sexual abuse scandle may have been the breaking point for the laity, and Hans Kung's message may be what it takes to inspire some of them to push their bishops to lead the flock into a plausible future. 

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2 years ago  ::  May 23, 2012 - 10:07PM #3
Roodog
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May 23, 2012 -- 8:42PM, Dutch777 wrote:

We can thank RooDog for this gem; he put me onto it.

RC theologian Hans Kung, who has had his license to teach yanked, has just authored a new book.  He advises the laity to seize control of the RCC in order to save it.  IMVHO, the poor man is deluded and has taken up residency in La-La Land.  What say you?

news.monstersandcritics.com/europe/news/...




Thanks for finding a link that I could open with my fossil computer.

For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.

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If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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2 years ago  ::  May 23, 2012 - 10:14PM #4
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May 23, 2012 -- 8:42PM, Dutch777 wrote:

We can thank RooDog for this gem; he put me onto it.

RC theologian Hans Kung, who has had his license to teach yanked, has just authored a new book.  He advises the laity to seize control of the RCC in order to save it.  IMVHO, the poor man is deluded and has taken up residency in La-La Land.  What say you?

news.monstersandcritics.com/europe/news/...




I said it before and I'll say it again. Those that have an issue with how the RCC is set up, as well as the doctrine that is set forward should leave. It is never going to be a system like we Anglicans have it,E.V.E.R.

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2 years ago  ::  May 24, 2012 - 7:14PM #5
Roodog
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I wonder if Kung is going to be defrocked and excommunicated, or perhaps have a mysterious and fatal heart attack......(like JP1)

For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.

St. Thomas Aquinas

If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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2 years ago  ::  May 24, 2012 - 7:39PM #6
GRobit625
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May 24, 2012 -- 7:14PM, Roodog wrote:


I wonder if Kung is going to be defrocked and excommunicated, or perhaps have a mysterious and fatal heart attack......(like JP1)





He's too old and insignificant to the Vatican. When his time is up, he'll more than likely get a full blown RC send off.

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2 years ago  ::  May 24, 2012 - 9:24PM #7
Roodog
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May 24, 2012 -- 7:39PM, GRobit625 wrote:


May 24, 2012 -- 7:14PM, Roodog wrote:


I wonder if Kung is going to be defrocked and excommunicated, or perhaps have a mysterious and fatal heart attack......(like JP1)





He's too old and insignificant to the Vatican. When his time is up, he'll more than likely get a full blown RC send off.





If he really gets into the RCC doghouse, there is always TEC.

For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.

St. Thomas Aquinas

If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 6:08AM #8
BBarton
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May 24, 2012 -- 9:24PM, Roodog wrote:

May 24, 2012 -- 7:39PM, GRobit625 wrote:


May 24, 2012 -- 7:14PM, Roodog wrote:


I wonder if Kung is going to be defrocked and excommunicated, or perhaps have a mysterious and fatal heart attack......(like JP1)





He's too old and insignificant to the Vatican. When his time is up, he'll more than likely get a full blown RC send off.





If he really gets into the RCC doghouse, there is always TEC.


I find it rather courageous to reform from within.  It's always easier to walk away.

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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 3:00PM #9
GRobit625
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May 28, 2012 -- 6:08AM, BBarton wrote:

May 24, 2012 -- 9:24PM, Roodog wrote:


May 24, 2012 -- 7:39PM, GRobit625 wrote:


May 24, 2012 -- 7:14PM, Roodog wrote:


I wonder if Kung is going to be defrocked and excommunicated, or perhaps have a mysterious and fatal heart attack......(like JP1)





He's too old and insignificant to the Vatican. When his time is up, he'll more than likely get a full blown RC send off.





If he really gets into the RCC doghouse, there is always TEC.




I find it rather courageous to reform from within.  It's always easier to walk away.




And foolish. It's going to take more than a handful of folks to change the way business has been handled for over a thousand years.

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2 years ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 8:46PM #10
Roodog
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May 28, 2012 -- 6:08AM, BBarton wrote:

May 24, 2012 -- 9:24PM, Roodog wrote:


May 24, 2012 -- 7:39PM, GRobit625 wrote:


May 24, 2012 -- 7:14PM, Roodog wrote:


I wonder if Kung is going to be defrocked and excommunicated, or perhaps have a mysterious and fatal heart attack......(like JP1)





He's too old and insignificant to the Vatican. When his time is up, he'll more than likely get a full blown RC send off.





If he really gets into the RCC doghouse, there is always TEC.




I find it rather courageous to reform from within.  It's always easier to walk away.





Tell that to Huss, Savonarola and Luther, B. Barton

For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.

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If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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